Where did you get that??? I just don't agree with him. ------------------ "You know what they say about the music business. Here today, gone TODAY! - Chris Rock at the MTV Music Video Awards
Hakeem is less of a factor on defense against the lineup the Mavs were putting out there. You have 4 guards and a guy that can just bomb away from the outside in Nowitzki. If Hakeem guards Nowitzki out on the perimeter, he's definitely not going to be changing too many shots in the paint. If he comes over on help defense to stop the penetration, he leaves Nowitzki open for the pass back out. I'd like to go back and look at the game because quite frankly, this may explain why Dirk was SO DAMN WIDE OPEN on so many shots. Hakeem was probably trying to do his usual guard-the-paint defense. By the end of the game Hakeem had no gas left in the tank. That's more than likely why he wasn't playing. He's still got the moves, but they only go for about 25-30 minutes now. ------------------ "I was arrested for sexual assault involving an elderly man and I was out in 35 minutes." -- Achebe - programmer by day, geriatric ass grabber by night. As(s?) a side note, he did state he was cleared of charges.
DOD: That is a great point. In fact, they said in the Chronicle today that Nowitzki killed them because of the penetration and Olajuwon going over to help leaving him open. Rudy even said they made defensive mistakes that were supposed to be part of the game plan. I'm sure that it is habit for Hakeem to try and block every shot, but it sure didn't help with Nowitzki bombing away. ------------------ "You know what they say about the music business. Here today, gone TODAY! - Chris Rock at the MTV Music Video Awards
spot on Jeff. Rudy went with 7 players the whole game. How someone can say Dream should have played 40+ is beyond me and surely beyond Dream himself. And how you can blame Walt for being on Finley when they go with 4 guards and Mobley is not playing, again is beyond me. And how you can blame not doubling Finley when Dallas spreads the floor out, just like we do, to punish the doubles, and we (in fact) did bring help to Finley and he hit Nitwitz for a 3 twice, is the epitome of "beyond me". Only if you must blame Rudy for every loss to make yourself feel like you know basketball, is the only valid reason I can think of to blame Rudy for player management with only 7 players even logging minutes last night. bottom-line: we missed our free throws, Hakeem's instints told him to leave Nitwitz twice, Francis slipped with 40 seconds left and he missed a tying 3. The players lost this 4th quarter starting with our two leaders, not Rudy or Walt. Rudy is coach of the year, imo.
Wouldn't Shandon do a better job on Finley? You think Walt should have been guarding him? Well, I may not know what a double pick triple high pnr 24 is, but I know that Walt should not have been guarding Finley, and that YES, Hakeem should have logged 40+ minutes in what was a VITALLY IMPORTANT GAME. With the T-wolves winning today, the Rockets are now 4 games behind. The Rockets really needed that game. The free throws cost them the game, but the Rockets would never have been in that situation if the coaching had been up to par last night. Remember, they had a 7 point lead before the Mavs started hiting layups and dunks on every posession. I'll take a three-pointer over a Finley layup any day, because there's a much better chance of Dirk missing a three, than there is of Finley missing a layup. ------------------ "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning how to put food on their family while being put to death."
I've seen this question posted a few times but no one's answered it (as far as I've seen). Why didn't Cato play? I didn't notice anything wrong with him in pre-game warmups, and one time I thought I saw him go to the scorer's table. (It was when Dallas had Bradley and Nowitzki in the game) He never entered the game though b/c of a timeout. Was he hurt or did Rudy just not use him b/c Dream was hot and Dallas used a small lineup most of the time? ------------------
Good point. Cato would have provided a little more intimidation than Kenny Thomas. ------------------ "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning how to put food on their family while being put to death."
Let me breakdown this game, a young, mostly inexperienced Rockets, without their 2nd leading scorer and starting 2-guard, and with their backup PG banged up, were on the road against a deep, talented, playoff bound team, and lost a close game. You can't win every game you play! ------------------ Rocks2001 in disguise. . .
That young team thing is just an excuse. Why can't anyone admit that Rudy coached a bad game last night? It was ONE bad game by Rudy I was pointing out. The Rockets needed defense, so Rudy went with his worst defensive lineup. He plays Hakeem all of the third, and less than half the fourth. I don't see the logic in that. If you're going to rest him, do it in the third quarter, not the all-important fourth. ------------------ "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning how to put food on their family while being put to death."
ZRB, Hakeem can not log 40+ minutes. I'm like the third person in this thread to disagree with that. Come back to earth, man. Shandon on Walt is a fine argument. But, Dream dropping off Nitwitz and the other 3 things I mentioned are bigger reasons for the loss than Rudy. The was plenty of help defense on Finley, just like Dallas would have given help defense on Mobley. They will both get by their initial defender in the 4th. Defense is about provide proper help without losing site of the other shooters. We lost track of Nitwitz. Also, these lame comments about "heyparnter, I may not know a 4 out 1 flex if I saw one, but I know basketball" is essentially saying I only know Xs and Os and not the real play. Cut that out and just make your point. Besides, if you can't spot a 24 High pnr from an ISO by now, I seriously must question your desire to figure out our offense and even try to learn what the team is doing. And if you can't allow Dream to take a breather when he asks for it, I seriously must question your judgement. I'm arguing straight with you on your comments. I am confident my four reasons for the loss are better than your reasons. I think your subjectivity makes you lose sight of the more obvious reasons for a loss. You seem to have an agenda to be a backseat coach and blame the coach first, so you see reasons that fits that. imo, Dream and Francis and the technical fouls lost that game more than Rudy and Walt did. I'm not defending Walt. I just don't think Rudy had much at all to do with this loss.
ZRB, Your strategy is flawless. It would be a great idea to leave an exhausted, 38 year old Hakeem on the floor. Not only is that great defense against a PERIMETER roaming Nowitzki, bu it is also a great way to avoid injury. Even though he is better now, he did have major respiritory problems last year. Additionally, fatigued muscles have a greater chance of cramping/getting injured. In the past, Rudy has mostly deferred to Hakeem as far as when to take him out and put him back in. Perhaps he should ignore him and common sense. Finally, on Hakeem, it is also a much better strategy to leave him in the beginning of the fourth quarter and take him out at the end of the game. It seems every NBA coach has that wrong, as they try to leave their stars fresh for the end of the game. I am sure either Colson or Cato could have done a much better job on Finley. Rudy is an idiot! He sucks! I am so much smarter than he is! I bet he never even played basketball before. ------------------ Take an object. Do something to it. Do something else to it. " " " " "
Throwing my hands up??? ZRB, you blame Rudy more times than anyone else on this board. "ONE bad game". That is so laughable. Mango, why don't you pull the archives. My bet is we will find at least 12 losses ZRB blames on Rudy.
I wasn't talking about offensive plays. I don't really pay attention to the types of plays the Rockets run. I've never claimed to be an expert when it comes to offensive sets. I was talking about defense. Hakeem should have been rested in the third quarter, not the fourth. The fourth is when they needed him most, not the third. I've never claimed to be an expert, but if you really think that a lineup consisting of Mooch, Kenny, and Walt is a good defensive team, fine. I know I have blamed Rudy for losses in the past, but that is the past. I was talking about THIS game. There are many reasons the Rockets lost, but the biggest one was Rudy's coaching. Anyway Heypartner, if you're such an expert, tell me why Rudy plays Hakeem the whole third, and rests him in the fourth. Wouldn't it be better to rest him in the third, and have him ready for the fourth quarter? The fourth quarter is when the Rockets really need defense, and Hakeem is never available because that is the quarter he is rested. Why? Why does Rudy do this? ------------------ "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning how to put food on their family while being put to death."
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ZRB, Sitting around during the halftime and the entire third quarter is difficult on the muscles of older athletes such as Dream. Mango ------------------ Get it right or just don't do it!
Why can't he play half the third, and all of the fourth? He could play the first six minutes of the third, rest, and come back ready for the fourth. I still don't understand the logic behind this. ------------------ "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning how to put food on their family while being put to death."
Mango: You rule. heypartner: Thanks for going to the tape for me on that one! ZRB: First off, I think Mango proved my point about your obvious dislike of Rudy T but that "Hakeem should play 40+ minutes" stuff is nuts. What do you suggest when he requests to come out of the game? Put a gun to his head!? ------------------ "You know what they say about the music business. Here today, gone TODAY! - Chris Rock at the MTV Music Video Awards
Mango- You read all those? Wow. Most of those posts have an underlying theme. Too much Moochie, too much Bullard, too much Kenny, too much Walt, and too much Collier. So many games this year Rudy has gone with Moochie and Bullard (when healthy) in the fourth quarter. I'm sorry, but Moochie and Bullard are third string players that do not belong in the game during the fourth quarter. I can't believe anyone would agree with playing guys like Moochie and Bullard in the fourth quarter. Rudy has done this all year long. If I've bashed Rudy, its usually been about the same thing. Not using the best players in the most important quarter of the game. ------------------ "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning how to put food on their family while being put to death."
Not 40 minutes per game! I am sure Hakeem could have handled 40 minutes in an ultra-important game like the Dallas game. If he can't handle it, he should have been benched in the third quarter, not the fourth. I do not dislike Rudy T. I have always thought he was a great coach. Outside of those Bullard-Moochie fourth quarter lineups, I think he has done a tremendous job. He works harder than any coach in the game. No one gets INTO games like Rudy T. He has done a brilliant job with rebuilding, and has gotten the team 4 games above .500 in the west. I just think they could be even better, if he would go to his starters for all of the fourth quarter, not all of the third. ------------------ "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning how to put food on their family while being put to death."
Yes, I read fast. Mango ------------------ Get it right or just don't do it! Special Assignment: ZRB Patrol
