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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by abc2007, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. Seth

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    You are seeing the best of this team according to the coach and GM.
    There is no reason to believe that you or Tmac knows more about basketball than our coach.
    Therefore T-Mac should be played when Adelman says so, by being the man with most basketball knowladge and having far more inside information on the team players than anyone else.

    As fan and customer you should be happy that this team is doing so well with 40 millions sitting on the bench that are not ready to play acording to the team coach. Enough.

    Unless of course you can claim that you know more about basketball and our players than Adelman. Otherwise, no need to complain.
     
  2. Seth

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    Clearly Adelman sees him in practice and that's why he sits him, no hesitation there.
    There is hesitation on the fans to believe what the coach thinks.
     
  3. abc2007

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    If you think the current rockets are the best that we can see, it means you look down this team. I believe my beloved rockets could be much better.

    I don't think I have more backetball knowledge than Adelman and Morey. But, the rockets organization is a business organization. They have their own standpoint. As fans and customers, we have our own standpoint.

     
  4. Plowman

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    You probably think that even in hindsight we shouldn't have traded Yao 2 -3 years ago.
     
  5. Seth

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    I thin this is the best rockets we can see. I don't expect McGrady to have a better chemistry with this team than Buddinger or Ariza or Battier and i don't expect him to outproduce Ariza and CBudd offensively or Ariza and Battier defensively.
    I other words i think if the coach saw that McGrady would have a great impact on the team, he would have played him, if he is not playing maybe McGrady being 100% healthy doesn't mean he is 100% in basketball form.
    He may have the rights to decide weather if it's better for him to shape himself during games, but that's ultimatelly a team descition we all have to accept it.

    Look at last year, he wanted to come back "100% healthy" and called himself out for the season, or the Spurs, who make Ginobili come back earlier last year and lost him for the entire playoffs, same as the Celtics with Garnet.

    To regain yout form in a basketball game is a lot more dangerous than to regain it in practice. Given how TMac body acted lately, i prefer him to wait untill he is 100% in both aspects, bball and health before he comes back.
     
  6. abc2007

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    Again, I want to see the fact, not just assumptions, opinions, ...

     
  7. Seth

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    What would you call fact?

    Fact, the coach thinks he is not ready to play.
    Fact, he is not playing.
    Want more facts, go watch the rockets practice.
     
  8. abc2007

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    The fact is that the rockets play Tmac and show us how good or bad he is!

     
  9. dbigfeet

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    well all this depend on what youy are paying for. If you are paying to see the Houston Rockets play the best to there abilities and try to win as many games as possible, you are not being cheated. Coach, GM, Owner and the org will not hold a player back if that player can help them win. a healthy T-mac will help the Rockets winn games. But there is no point in rushing him back since the team is playing well.

    If you pay to see Tracy, not the rest of the team, then yeah, you are being cheated.
     
  10. abc2007

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    Once again, if you think this is the best that we can see from this team, you look down this team. I believe this team could be much better.

     
  11. dbigfeet

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    With Tracy from 5 years ago yes. With brokeback T-Mac coming back from serious knee surgery, I don't think so. The time it would take him to get "100" The season will long be over.
     
  12. abc2007

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    Again, why don't the rockets play him and show us how good or bad he is?!

    No more assumptions or opinions ...

     
  13. zaam

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    Somebody help me out here, because I feel like I am in some weird parallel universe listening to this.

    Was it not the case all along that the Rockets said they would evaluate Tmac's progress in late November and then decide how to proceed?

    Did they not say they would be cautious about his recovery?

    If Tmac had been a pro about this and not spoken out of turn about his possible return on the 18th (which was BTW before the scheduled MRI) then you guys wouldn't be b****ing about the coach not letting him play.

    Sorry, but I cannot see any inconsistency in management's position on this from day one. McGrady opened his mouth and some of you guys latched on to his drama and ran with it.

    Get real here.
     
  14. dbigfeet

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    Should the coach play Dorsey just to prove how bad he is?
     
  15. Kojirou

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    So the Rockets send out T-Mac early and potentially lose .... because you're on an ego trip and think you're superior to the elite coach who has seen McGrady up close.
    I think I'll pass.
     
  16. abc2007

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    Tmac was a former score champion, allstar, and his 13 in 35 has been selected to one of great moments in rockets history.

    The rockets do need to show how good or bad he is.

     
  17. Kojirou

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    Allright, so the Rockets should try to sign Hakeem as he is right now and play him. I mean, he did so much for Houston, and even if he's so old, we just need to see how good or bad he is.
    Seriously, you're acting like the Rockets owe you something by letting McGrady play, which is both laughable and contemptible. Adelman says he doesn't play, he doesn't play. Period.
     
  18. abc2007

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    Hakeem has retired, but Tmac hasn't. He is 30 years old.

     
  19. HowsMyDriving

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    the rockets don't owe you anything. the rockets don't need to prove anything to you. the organization does what is in the best interest of the organization. keep in mind that the rockets are very interested in winning, even in a season such as this. winning is what gives your players value, moreso than stats, it shows they can play good basketball. if tracy is not playing, it is because they do not believe he will contribute to winning, in the balanced sense of the short term and long term.

    bottom line - the rockets don't owe the fans any proof about tmac's condition. just like tmac didn't have to prove to us that he was hurt before running off and having major surgery.
     
  20. Dave_78

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    13 in 35 definitely changes everything when it comes to McGrady :rolleyes:
     

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