LOL I'm actually going to go back and watch all 7 seasons again after the current season concludes. There's so much happening and is being conversed about that connects to the past 6 seasons.
That's crazy. I recognize that if so many people care about a show with dragons and orks or whatever it is probably pretty good, but to rewatch 67 hours of something instead of say 45 all time great films you have never seen is a big downside to TV being the creative medium of choice for the auteurs.
I often find myself watching parts of the BB marathon on AMC thru my Sunday afternoons... I don't see anything wrong with that. If it's a good show and you enjoy it, why not rewatch it? People do the same all the time with their favorite movies even.
opportunity cost. I've never seen breaking bad, I'm sure its great, I just don't have 50 hours for it. movies are ~90 - 120 minutes and at the end you have a complete story with no time spent ramping to get you hyped to watch the next installment. You do you, I'm just saying I don't get it. I like that shows are now free to air less episodes per season.
You don't have to watch it in one sitting. That's why I said after this season. I'll have at least a year before I have to worry about completing it for next season.... Like watching a movie every week... Sounds like you're just a movie >>>>> TV guy, which there's nothing wrong with but you really are missing some good series'.
TV currently is drawing in better and better creators but there is also a grey area with shows like Stranger Things (or Fargo) which is really a mini series that tells a complete story. 6 hours and there is a resolution (until Fargo season 3). when I hear about shows like breaking bad you see comments like "it really ramps up in the third season." WTF? Shows that exist not to tell a story but to keep getting viewers back each week seem like time vacuums. (Walking Dead, Lost) If your entertainment time is a valuable resource, the cost of a 70 episode binge is very high compared to the reward. If you watch a movie a week from the criterion collection you might find 7 slots in your top ten have changed.
You're taking those sort of comments completely out of context. BB for the most part is the character development and providing background and a stage or platform, if you will, towards the main character actually breaking bad. You can't just start a TV show about a normal suburban school teacher that decides to sell meth from the jump... imo this was the most masterful part of the story telling, which is what made you actually believe that someone so "normal" was able to go to those lengths to provide himself and his family a better life. My wife NEVER and I mean NEVER agrees with me when it comes to TV series' but she recently decided to start watching BB for the first time and finished it within about a 3 weeks span. It got her hooked just like that. BB isn't the only worthwhile TV show to watch out there and Walking Dead is a bad example to bring up, those guys truly are just milking it with no substance for the last 2 seasons minus maybe ONE plot changing episode. Breaking Bad Shameless Sons of Anarchy The Americans Mad Men Veep The Wire Game of Thrones House of Cards Homeland Deadwood Agents of Shield (till just recently) Daredevil And so on and so on, you just have to choose the one that most fits your style of entertainment.
Binge watching it for the first time will probably be an awesome experience but watching it in a 7 year time span makes the payoffs especially this season so much more amazing and worthwhile. Characters with completely different story arcs for 6 years finally coming together. It's just amazing to watch the payoff. Also, TV or more specificlly Netflix/HBO/Amazon Prime has surpised blockbuster movies in my opnion
The extended length allows them to create a world, and an emotional investment that no movie could dream of matching. I've rewatched it twice myself. The 50 minutes I watched on Sunday generated as much tension and excitement as even the best movies, and it was just one episode. If you truly have story, and maintain a direction towards a goal (meaning not pulling Walking Dead BS), the modern short season TV format is far better than movies.
agree to disagree can you name a few of your favorite movies that would be comparable in psychological effect so I can have a frame of reference?
I have to take your word on BB as I just talked about it as an example because you brought it up first. I've never seen an episode. I'm not putting any valuation on it's quality or your enjoyment, I just completely disagree similar character development is impossible to have in the confines of a movie or mini series. Walking dead was a great example to bring up in the way I did and you seem to agree it is a meandering show. That's the context I brought it up in. Of the long list I've watched significant episodes of Veep, HoC and Agents of Shield. HoC and agents of shield went to ****, and Veep is a comedy which fits TV in my opinion.
In term of psychological effect, I can't think of one. In that almost all movies follow a protagonist, or a group of protagonists. You know these guys aren't gonna die, or if they do it will be near the end. It's ensemble nature would make it impossible to compare it to any movie.Of the dozens of characters involved, only one truly felt like they have had plot armor all the way through, and she was kept literally and figuratively away from the main plot line until this season. Because the good guys have taken so many L's in this series (they've killed off the would be traditional protagonist twice), watching the W's truly feels amazing. And that's not to mention the litany of characters that exist in an amazing moral gray area. The battle on Sunday involved 2 major characters against another major character and a dragon. I was genuinely fearful for 2 of the 3 characters and the dragon. The conflict is completely believable and not forced, yet you care about people on both sides of the fight. If a movie tried what this show did and kill the protagonist, that's the end of the movie. You simply don't have the time to build up support characters to pick up the pieces after the defeat.
name a few movies that had an the highest "emotional investment" for you. I guess you misunderstood my question. I realize you think movies fall short, but give me a few that came the closest as in "even the best movies" FYI the protagonist in BB is walter white
Off hand Terminator 2, Shawshank, Pulp Fiction,12 Angry Men and probably 4 or 5 Kubrick movies with 2001 being my favorite. Only Shawshank came close in terms of investment and fear for the characters. edit I can name quite a few movies where I really loved the hero of the story, and wanted them to succeed. A compelling protagonist is movie making 101. Virtually none where I grew to love multiple characters and thought they could legit die before the end. FWIW few, very precious few, TV shows have been able to maintain the steam of GOT. In general a great movie is clearly better than a great show because most shows involve fluff episodes, or lose direction and just start going season to season with no endgame. It's extremely difficult to do, but if done right it's better. I would say this and Breaking Bad are the only ones that managed to do it start to finish (GOT isn't finished, but at this point there's no way the last season and a half aren't crazy enertaining).
You've listed movies with wide ranges and T2 has some of the cheesiest character interactions of all time. PF seems more like a style movie. Are you listing movies you just like or movies that moved you? This is my frustration: You are willing to watch B&W opening you up to decades of masterpieces but list three movies made specifically in the early 90's. Also I loved 12 angry men, but that is far more an analytical movie than emotional. The kid's fate is more of a litmus test for the process than some emotional investment.
Yes my 3 favorite movies all happen to be from the early 90's, it's a coincidence more than anything. If you just want me to list movies that I considered emotionally moving. Shawshank would still be on that list, It's a Wonderful Life, Glory, Paths of Glory, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, and maybe Logan. It's still too fresh to make a clear judgement. The Pixar movies are also shockingly good at it.
Yeah I was asking for movies that you considered fall short in "emotional investment that no movie could dream of matching." It was 10 replies ago so possibly confusing.
