I don't care if he's all but done, I want Bob Sanders

star-gazing? that's not a fair characterization. And ST is composed of back-ups, as you have pointed out. Not difficult to find. Again, were the Texans to take a cheap flier on Sanders (assuming he'd even do that), it does not have to be at the expense of the dime-a-dozen backups who routinely play ST.

let me fix this for you. "2 minutes into your first regular season he gets hurt. So the next game you bring in the scrub from your practice squad that would have made the team otherwise and he's the new 3rd string safety and sees action on ST." Am I missing something here? We're talking a 53rd roster spot, for crying out loud.

check my sig, tyvm. And guess what? If Yao wanted to sign for $400G and play from the bench, I'd be all for it. The comparison between the $18MM Yao, whose team is hamstrung because no money is left for anything else, and folks here wanting to take a cheap flyer on Bob Sanders is beyond disingenuous. It's ludicrous.

 

well, they couldn't tackle my 90-something-year-old dead grandmother, either. but as I recall the D seemed to struggle on that front, too.

 

I don't remember coverage being a major problem, except for that three stooges style return gaffe (Casey and two others whose names escape me, probably 7th and 8th string TEs) during the Baltimore game (why does that game keep coming up when we talk about the Texans )

 

Well, memory could certainly be failing me on this. But yeah, Turk fell off the edge of the planet for sure.

Can Bob Sanders punt?

 

I'm sure that would turn out very similar to what happened to this guy.

 

Because we didn't quit. None of us quit.

I don't know. We beat those guys asses up and down that field tonight! We got nothing to be ashamed of, right? Isn't that right?

Maybe the scoreboard doesn't say it, but we won that game. We held them. It was just....a fluke. That's all. It's just a fluke.

Sincerely,

Spoiler

and

Spoiler

 

He'd probably boom the first punt 58 yards, and then on the second one, his leg would detach from his body and fly 34 yards. Needless to say, this would put him on season-ending IR.

 

You beat me to the punch, you magnificent son of a b****.

 

You can still one-up me if you can find a gif or vid of his leg flying through the air.

 

I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so excuse me if the point has been made. But one example of a "guy who would run real fast on ST and sit on the bench and play on the practice squad" where the Texans followed your advice and cut the young guy for the vet is Tramon Williams.

This is like the MLB argument of spending money on vets instead of your farm system. The difference being in the NFL your farm team doesn't have separate leagues and plays on special teams and on the practice squad. Also the MLB doesn't have a salary cap.

 

Well, what if I told you that Don Cheadle was the voice of Brother Faith from that very same episode?? Does that qualify as one-upping??



Please??

 

No one said to cut anybody. Tramon wasn't put on the practice squad, he was cut. Tramon took quite a while to land with another team's... *practice squad*. He then remained irrelevant for another year or two.

In other words, Williams has nothing to do with Ric's hypothesis that taking a cheap flyer on Sanders would cost the Texans a valuable ST/depth difference maker this year. Those guys are a dime-a-dozen.

 

In order to add Bob Sanders to the roster, you move someone to to practice squad. In order to move someone to the practice squad, you cut someone else. The point, as with minor league baseball, is that it is very difficult to determine who will pan out and who won't. For every over the hill Bob Sanders you add, you reduce your potential to find a Tramon Williams or Arian Foster.

 

They would have missed on Tramon Williams anyway. Every. Team. Missed. On this guy. Twice.

 

This is silly. This is like saying that every team in the NFL passed on Tom Brady for five rounds, so if the Pats had had him in camp and cut him for Bledsoe, well every other team in the league would have missed on him five times, too.

They had him in camp. They liked him. He was the last DB cut. If they had had one more DB spot he would have made the team. The fact of the matter is that if they had 63 roster spots instead of 53, he would have been a Houston Texan. As I said, it is very difficult to determine which guys are going to pan out, which is why you keep as many of the best ones as you can. If it was possible to determine which baseball minor leaguers would pan out with 100% certanty, you could reduce the MLB draft from 50+ rounds to 2. The Texans thought enough of him to keep him around as long as possible.

If the Texans had had the extra roster spot and kept him, you could say that they would have stumbled onto something that they weren't expecting, but that is the entire point of what I've been saying. You keep as many developmental players around so that one of them eventually become the great player development story that you stumble upon.

 

Sure, and if the Texans were going to Bob Sanders what they paid Ahman Green, that would be stupid. But yet again, you argue a strawman.

Point me to any thing that suggests that if they let those guys go, they would have kept Tramon Williams. Anything, anywhere that suggests that.

Except that Bob Sanders is a really damn good player that would improve the Texans even if he played for 3 games.

The best organization cut ties with him because they'd have to pay him a whole boat load of money to keep him.

 

In case you didn't hear, you're allowed to sign more than one player each year. There's nothing to suggest you can't do both.

Nonsense. They have to explore every avenue to get better. That means getting sure things where available, and taking cheap fliers where needed.

 

The year that Tramon Williams was the last DB cut was the year after they felt the need to add a freakishly athletic defensive stalwart veteran DB named Phillip Buchanon who made the roster.

It is reasonable to assume if you remove Buchanon from the mix, the last DB to be cut would have made the team, right?

 

Buchanon was added a year before Williams got here.

 

Yeah, I fixed it before you replied. But he still took up a roster spot and was the starter at the time that Williams was cut (for 4 more games). It still follows that if you remove the overpriced big name vet, then the last rookie cut at the same position gets the roster spot.

BTW, I was listening to Sirius NFL the day Sanders was cut when someone called, giddy about the possibility of the Texans signing him, and it was pointed out that he is a box safety in a Tampa 2 and is about the worst fit possible for Wade Phillips system where the safeties have to play man, especially given his diminutive height. No matter how good he was in the past playing zone and sitting over the top anticipating for interceptions and laying the wood on receivers in crossing routes, I don't want to see 5'8" Bob Sanders manning up on 6'4" Marques Colston with no help for a jump ball.