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I don't care if he's all but done, I want Bob Sanders

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by emjohn, Feb 18, 2011.

  1. Malcolm

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  2. emjohn

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    Slot him as a part time guy for obvious passing downs, pay him $2M-$3M with limited guarantees, push him as a mentor and as an asset for game-planning within the division.

    Don't look at me with a straight face and say we can't afford to give him a roster spot when Antwaun Moldon's been with us the last 3 years.
     
  3. msn

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    THAT'S IT!!!!!!

    Give him Molden's roster spot. Problem solved. :grin: :grin:
     
  4. Hey Now!

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    How does Molden bolster your case? He's the *exact* reason you *don't* sign Sanders - guys wasting away on your roster who can't contribute are absolutely worthless. Yeah, sure - Bob Sanders is better than Antwaan Molden. When healthy. But when they're both in street clothes for 15 weeks a year... there's not a not a ton of difference between them.
     
  5. david_rocket

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    I see Bob Sanders like Yao Ming, they are injured a lot, but when they played, they are great. If you had depth in your roster, maybe you could play him some minutes, but its not good if he is the star in the defensive side, becuae you wouldnt have other good players to replace him if he is injured (most likely).
     
  6. meh

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    I'm not exactly jumping up and down for the guy, but the arguments against signing Sanders in this thread makes no sense. Quite ludicrous actually.

    Putting Sanders on the 53 man roster basically bumps our last DB down to the practice squad. Sanders isn't replacing a starter. He's replacing the worst DB on the worst secondary on the worst defense in the NFL. Even if the Texans get 4 games out of him, it would be huge win from a production vs cost perspective, assuming money isn't a factor. Heck, even if Sanders get injured in preseason, what do we lose? Maybe 300K in signing bonus? OTOH, the upside is ridiculous. If Sanders plays enough to even raise our win total by one, that could be the difference between playoffs or missing out.

    The only negative I see with signing Sanders is developmental time for polishing a raw DB. i.e. we could potentially lose out on the next Tramon Williams. But even that IMo is an incredibly small risk. If our management continue to be r****ds when it comes to young secondary talent, then it really wouldn't matter who we sign. If Wade Phillips is actually a defensive guru, then he would retain such raw talents and instead cut a useless player instead.

    Overall, given the right money, I see no reason why the Texans don't at least attempt to get the guy.
     
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    I'd take a chance on him if the money was right. As mentioned earlier, he wouldn't be my starter (and thus wouldn't receive starter money) and only play in obvious passing downs.

    That being said, I'd rather go after OJ Atogwe.
     
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    They should ban you for a stupid post!!! Just cuz you don't like the idea, you should be banned!!!!
     
  10. ROXRAN

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    Count me in let's give him an opportunity. Maybe, he has had bad luck for the last 3 years and that might be behind him. Past performance does not guarantee future results,...indicator sure, but not absolute. He is worth it, we need to add as many DB's as possible thru free agency.

    We shall see. . .
     
  11. monkeyboy32

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    i felt this way a couple seasons back about bringing in brian dawkins.. but for some reason i cant get myself to get on board for sanders
     
  12. HillBoy

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    So your grand idea here is to replace a guy who is taking up a roster spot - one who can't get on the field with another guy who can't get on the field and this somehow makes the Texans better? Please explain how this magically improves their secondary because this smacks of pathetic desperation which is something I'd never thought I would see from you. Sorry but I have to side with Ric on this one. Any amount of money spent on this - no matter how small - would be a wasted effort. I have seen enough of this type of futile exercise with the Rockets and now folks here want to duplicate their results with the Texans. This team won't get better by acquiring broken down players who can be had for cheap.
     
  13. Major

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    I think the argument is simple. Sanders plays an average of 6 or 7 games per year at a defensive MVP level. That's better than a guy that plays those same 6 or 7 games at a non-MVP level. Thus, the former is better than the latter.
     
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    When Sanders play he is elite. Didn't he win defensive Mvp a couple years ago?
     
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    I'd take a flier on him. Nothing too exorbitant with the contract, but I don't think he'll be commanding Ahmad Green money this time around for us.
     
  16. msn

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    erm... 'twas a joke, brotha.

    I'm still in the "take a cheap flier" camp, but Molden is not on my radar as part of any argument in favor of that.
     
  17. Hey Now!

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    While defense, and the defensive secondary specifically, are certainly in need of upgrades, so, too, is their special teams. By bumping the 53rd man off the roster, you're eliminating a position that could be filled by a young, hungry DB with potential who could, in the interim, be an asset on special teams. All so you can pay Bob Sanders $3M to play 1 or 2 games? Oh, and mentor - not that we have *any* idea whether he can actually do that.

    You're vastly overrating Sanders. First of all, he's *totaled* 9 games the past three years; any suggestion he would "average" 6 or 7 games a year is silly. And since he's getting older, not younger, his DPOY-level (which was 2007, btw), is firmly entrenched in his past.
     
  18. msn

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    Is it possible we're overplaying the whole "53rd roster spot hungry ST guy" angle a little bit? Wouldn't this simply be a guy on the practice squad who joins the team the minute someone gets on IR? And, don't a couple folks hit IR every year? I don't think you're excluding the solution to your ST dilemma by taking a flier on a guy who's been hurt -- unless of course you go all Ahman Green on his contract. But no one is arguing for that.
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    why the hell not?
     
  20. Hey Now!

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    The point is that you're wasting your energy and focus on a mirage. Do you want to know how a Tramon Williams slips through the cracks and ends up a star on someone else's roster? Bby investing in too myths like Bob Sanders, IMO.

    We know exactly how this story is going to end. He cannot stay healthy. He cannot contribute. He therefore drains valuable resources - money, time, roster space. He's Yao Ming in a football helmet. Or, if you don't like mixing your sports analogies: Tony Boselli.
     

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