I do not think Yao is good and I will tell you why in this thread that I have made

Unfortunately, seniority rules in this BBS.

 

The problem will you people is that u want Yao to be like Shaq. But that not who he is and either accepted or watch the Miami heat. Because this is the way it konna be. DEal with it !! I take 19 and 9 every day and night. He is still one of the top 3 center in the NBA.

Enough with Yao talk i bet he won't be here after his contract expire.

 

DD, you need to put down the holiday spirites.

 

You can cut him slack if you wish. Until someone recognizes their err, I wouldn't personally be so inclined.

Most offensive thread title/start I've seen in the GARM since the early days. It's an affront to all here.

 

I agree with DD. That P1,S2 guy has some good points.


I know I'm sick of seeing Yao get cheesed by shrimps.

Is it against chinese religion to dunk on a short guy without getting cheesed?

 

This guy ate too much tuckey!!!

 

Chinese is not a religion.

 

Exactly. It's a food. duh.

 

I agree that Yao is not playing up to his potential especially in the rebounding department. But to bash him because he's not as good as Amare is r****ded. Hindsight is 20/20... a lot of teams passed on Stouds.
Yao has shown that he can crash the boards when he wants to, and he's been doing it lately. As for his turnovers... I dunno. He needs to protect the ball and yell at some refs.

 

Don't worry, P1 S2. If you keep posting this kind of offensive thread, Yao will not bother you very soon.

 

You are right, the "Yao-Wow! phenomenon" is annoying.

The same is true for the "Yao suck....7'6...Amare....suck..." phenomenon.

On one hand you have kids that thinks too much of their super-hero.

On the other hand, you have people telling these kids their super-hero sucks more than anyother super-hero, and since their super-hero is taller than all others, he ought to win the MVS every year. Because he doesn't, he sucks.

I don't know. Which is more annoying?

 

Well, your tenure in Dallas is up and u get to watch a lot more Rockets games. One problem with this change of scenery exists, however: I must see u whine like a girl more than before.

Merry Christmas to u all.

 

Though I don't agree with the original post, at least it was (largely) constructive.

Why can't the replies be a bit more constructive than "You're an idiot", "Elementary school's out", etc?

 

Come on - if someone creates a thread with a title that only a grade-school troll could love, and then tries to make up for it by writing reasonable content, do you really expect constructive replies? That's like going to an IT job interview in a t-shirt and shorts, and expecting your professionalism to shine through via your personality.

 

For the season:

Yao - 19.0 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 1.70 bpg in 32.0 mpg
Amare - 25.6 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 1.81 bpg in 36.3 mpg

For December :

Yao - 20.7 ppg, 11.0 rpg , 2.36 bpg in 32.7 mpg
Amare - 24.8 ppg, 8.3 rpg , 1.46 bpg in 35.9 mpg


If your main problem with Yao is his lack of rebounding and shot blocking, why do you suggest that Yao is "soft" and Amare is the "real deal," given their production, and esp. considering that Amare's playing more minutes than Yao?

This month, Yao's ppg is around where you said you'd like them to be, and his boards and blocks are at levels nearly all of us would take for the remainder of this season.

Amare? Not so much.

I think Amare's point production makes him look like the "sexy" pick in hindsight, but I'd gladly hold onto Yao.

(and don't get me started on the whole Rik Smits over Yao comment... I can respect taking Amare, although I personally disagree, but I found what you said about Smits to be almost as offensive as the thread title...

you made solid points towards the end of your post, but remember, you catch more flies w/ honey than you do with vinegar - no need to be overly sour, no need to exagerrate with unfair comparisons to a player Yao is already better than... other than that, solid post)

 

I think so, too...one has to remember that Amare has Nash, and that Phoenix' offense is completely different than Houston's.

But let's not get too caught up in facts - after all, this is not really what this thread is about .

 

another thing to remember is the supporting cast.

Amare - w/ JJohnson / SMarion / QRich / oh yeah and someone named SNash.

Yao - w/ Tmac and then a bunch of crappy role players. When JJ is your next best player we are in trouble.

not to mention their bench is stronger than ours and their style is condusive to high scoring games where everyone gets theirs.


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Stats Filter: 2003-04 Playoffs 2003-04 Season 2002-03 Playoffs 2002-03 Season 2001-02 Playoffs 2001-02 Season 2000-01 Playoffs 2000-01 Season

Amare Stoudemire 25.6 pts/ 8.7 rebs
Shawn Marion 20.2 pts/ 11.5 rebs
Steve Nash 15.8 pts/ 11.2 assists
Joe Johnson 15.3 pts/ 5.2 rebs/ 3.4 assists
Quentin Richardson 15.0 pts/ 6 rebs

SMarion is playing off the hook this year and could be seen as the star of that team along w/ SNash. IMO.

J

 

I think it's difficult to compare two individual players stats in 2 different teams, especially we are talking about rockets and suns which are playing 2 completely different style. For example, Suns average 109.3 pts per game which is 22.5% more than the rockets (89.2pts). It means Amare has far more chances to score but at the same time he would concede more points (Suns conceded 8.9 more points than the rockets). If u want to compare Yao and Amare stats, why not have a look at the "Team Production by Position".

I am using http://www.82games.com as my source of data.

From the Rockets "Top Five-Man Floor Units", Yao played center 100% of the time with Deke as his back up center.

For Amare, "Top Five-Man Floor Units" shows that he plays center over 95% of the time with Steve Hunter as his back up center. Amare would also play PF less than 5% of the time with Hunter playing center.

As both Yao and Amare are mainly playing center position, lets have a look at their "Team Production by Position".

Rockets Net Production by Center is +7.1PER
Suns Net Production by Center is +7.3PER

To be honest I dont exactly know how the Player Efficiency Rating ("PER") is calulated. Maybe some other fans can help me out here. But obviously it takes into account all the ways a player can affect the game. The stats show that Sun's net production at center is just 0.2PER better than the rockets. It seems the problems, as we all already know, are at the PF and PG positions.

But with all said and done, the ultimate assessment of any individual player will always be his team wins/losses. So it's fair to say Amare is playing much better than Yao for obvious reason. But calling names really didnt help the discussion here, as what the thread starter did.