I can only wish that he would be back for a 3rd year....

I just dont get the SF love.

He has never won a thing in his life.

He could make a highlight dunk but couldn't make a simple entry pass.

He was such a great teammate that he stood up his team so that he could attend the Super Bowl. Meanwhile his teammates went out and played Pheonix in a crucial game for playoff seeding without him.

SF set this team back for a decade by getting CD to sign his peeps (Moochie,Cutino and T.Morris) to ridiculous contracts or he threatened to leave via FA.

SF was a dumb, selfish (dribble the shot clock away and jack up a 20 footer) lazy (he came in last year out of shape) player.

If you like streetball he's your guy.

No thanks for me I would rather see a team that has each others back and will lay it on the line to win while sacrificing personal stats for the good of the team.

Last years team was was an example of this.

Good Riddance

 

I was a big Francis fan when he was our star. But he is done. Actually, he has been done for a long time.

But really, why the nostalgia now? To be honest, I think our current starting poing guard is the most exciting guy we've had at the 1 since Sam Cassell. Aaron Brooks is a better shooter, scorer, decision maker, and is just as clutch as Francis. The only things that Francis did better than Brooks were rebounding, technical fouls, and grimaces (ok and flashy dunks).

Francis may still have the cult following among Rocket fans, but as a starting point guard, Aaron Brooks already has seven times as many playoff wins as Francis had in his entire Rocket career.

 

Man that's hilarious.....

Steve, wouldn't listen to anyone to help his game and now you expect him to help develop others.

 

Dr. Walter Lowe did Steve's surgery, not Clanton.

 

I think he wants to play again but he doesn't have the motivation anymore, he even mentioned when he had his child he stopped working out and came to training camp out of shape, and everyone exploded on rick for not playing him, the guy is not working hard at all and probably never will because he is putting his family over his career

 

That trade was a mistake. Rockets traded a man with heart for a show girl.

 

When did your Rockets fandom start? That will tell a lot of why or why not you'd like SF3

 

1970

The Rox have had worse eras (Traded Hayes, After Moses Before Ralph and Hakeem) but I felt like they were building something.

The SF era was the worst because it seemed they had no direction and there were cliques that were only about making money and partying.

I believe that part of SF migranes were due to partying. (He was a regular on nightclub scene)

 

Francis was a great athlete with some nasty dribbling skils...however, his extremely low bball IQ hurt him.

He was a great rebounder for a PG (6 rpg), and he got assists, but was very turnove prone as well.

He also had a VERY DIFFICULT time playing off the ball if he wasn't going to get an alley hoop.

His jumper wasn't that great, and he didn't know how to read and react.

For him it was dribble crossover and attack or dribble crossover and jumper. He didn't know how to do much else...not good for a point guard.

His era was one of the Rockets worst...but his highlights were fun to watch lol...can't lie on that, but I would rather us be winning than in the SC top 10 every night.


But, his lack of bball skill (shooting) and bball IQ came back to haunt him, once his athleticism was gone (07 season)...he was a great athlete and streetball player...never a great NBA player.

He made Stephon Marbury look like John Stockton in terms of Assists to Turnover ratio...

If only he had JVG or Larry Brown coach him as a rookie...

 

Steve and Aaron are both instinct point guards actually, PG became their professional position just because of their size, and Aaron is an extreme version of Steve IMHO.

There only difference is Aaron can hardly guard SG/PG with strength and muscles while Steve could do that pretty well if he wanted. And I don't think neither of them is a decent decision maker, they are both great scorers anyways though.

Aaron Brooks isn't defintely the perfect fit for our system, but he is probably the best guy we can get at this position. Deron Williams would be a much better option in terms of game-play only, but the finance only allows Rockets to use a mid-level player as their starting PG.

 

Man, SF got us Yao Ming. be glad his awesome play made us number one lottery pick in 2002 and we got YAO!!!

Other than that Steve Francis reminds me of Stephon Marbury...great talent but doesn't really care about winning all that much.

Since when was there a PG in this league that got 6 rebounds per game???

Man I love rebounding guards. I love SF. lol

 

I think a lot of the Steve Francis haters forget what kind of a roster we had in his final year. We had a bunch of Rookies with a bunch old farts on the roster.

Steve NEVER had the supporting cast and roll players WITH TALENT that we have now.

Same goes for Tracy Mcgrady. When he joined the Rockets in 04-05, he carried the team against the Mavs in the playoffs, cuz again, he had NO SUPPORTING CAST. LAST season against UTAH JAZZ, he again, carried the rockets on his back and did as much as he could. Say what you will about Steve and T-MAC, but when it counts, they show up.

In Steve's ONLY playoff appearance, he averaged 19ppg, 7.6 assists and 8.4 rebounds.

T-Mac's playoffs averages are 28.5ppg, 6 assists and 7 rebounds.

I dont any of you guys commenting on their lack of playoffs success realize that the star of the teams needs a supporting cast. MJ couldnt do it without Pippen and great supporting cast; and KOBE didnt do it until HE GOT HIS supporting cast.

 

Well, the problem I had with Steve Francis was that he wanted to play his streetball style 1-on-1 style...even though he won nothing that way.

He had Yao, and JVG wanted Steve to defer to him and actually play defense, but he wasn't willing to do either.

I appreciate the effort he gave in Houston, considering he didnt have any talent around him, but he didn't try to learn the game and it caught up with him.

I think he wanted to win, but he thought he could do it his way...dribbling for 18 seconds, turning the ball over a lot, and not worrying about defense as much.

He really needed a JVG, Larry Brown, Jerry Sloan, or Greg Pappovich from the beginning to teach him the game...Rudy let him get away with anything he wanted to.

 

Are we at such a low in this off-season that we are starting nostalgic threads asking to re-sign Stevie Franchise Killer?

 

yeah rudy t was a player's coach but he always had great defensive players/hall of famers to win with.

I think if steve wanted to come back and was ready at the beginning of november then it would be a great ticket seller and ppl like a come-back story.

I think if steve really wanted to come back then he should have asked and made it a point to play in the summer league you know.

 

i don't know who remembers but after ron-ron got kicked out of the league, the following season, ron artest played with the kings in the vegas summer league and he killed average like 25+ and a **** load of rebounds

 

I agree with that, but Kobe was the same way until he got players around him. But i think people also forget that Steve's 4th year (Yao's 1st), they had a shot at the playoffs under Rudy T, but Rudy T had to resign due to his illness and missed the last handful of games while the Rockets had a 1 or 2 game lead for final spot for the playoffs. The assistant coach took over which i think cost us a couple games which gave PHX the final 8th spot that year. The yr after that JVG took over.

Either way, it would be nice to see Steve Francis have another shot at making a comeback ANYWHERE, but it doesn't seem likely.

 

That's a good point.. i think when the Rockets brought him back, he probably assumed that the starting job would be his since we were trying to get rid of Rafer at the time, had AB as the rookie, and Mike James more than likely coming off the bench.

 

Steve Francis's knees are 60 years old.