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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ebu, Nov 11, 2008.

  1. tinman

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    This is what you said:

    If not THE greatest -implies that is the best thing that ever happened in Rockets history (I notice you never said regular or playoff)

    then you drop this only arguable moments were produced by Hakeem.

    a slap in the face of 41 years of tradition, of Sampson, Calvin Murphy, Elvin Hayes, Moses Malone, Akeem, Horry, Maxwell, Drexler, Smith, Elie etc

    And of FREAKING COURSE, you weigh PLAYOFFS!!

    I would trade this TMac moment for a freaking seeing the 2nd round of the playoffs for once! No question. I would have this erased out everyone's memory if we can do something in the playoffs.

    So don't try to back track dude. my point was proven that you guys care less about what's up in the rafters at Toyota Center. I'm sure you never even looked up.
     
  2. durvasa

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    It's a totally different type of achievement. It doesn't compare to having substantial playoff success, but it's special in its own way. I've never seen a more miraculous finish by a single player to beat another team -- in the regular season or playoffs.
     
  3. tinman

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    I vote Kenny Smith's record 7 threes in an NBA Finals Game 1vs Orlando as greater moment. Faked out Penny and hit that 3. Overtime!
     
  4. agentkirb87

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    "One of the greatest, if not the greatest" means "If its not THE greatest, its definitely one of the greatest." We've established that its one of the greatest already, so my statement and point stand. I didn't say "this comeback is easily the greatest moment in Rockets history", so stop putting words in my mouth.

    Obviously. Which is why I only group this moment with other comebacks in NBA history. The only other one I even have heard of is the Reggie Miller 8 points in 6 seconds. I can't even think of any other major comebacks other than generic "20 point comeback in the 4th quarter" type of games, nothing in the "lot of points in a small amount of time" category. And again, the use of the phrase "one of the greatest comebacks" is key. I'm not saying its definitely the best.

    Plus, the whole "13 in 35" was just Tmac's contribution to the comeback. Some people forget that we were actually down by 10 with 50 seconds left.
     
  5. AXG

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    I was actually at that game, but I was one of many who left early. :eek: Some friends of mine stayed and said it was the best game they've ever seen.
     
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    Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather have the guy who elevates his game over the course of a seven game series (the SA series was probably five now that I think about it) compared to the guy who picks it up for 30 seconds at the end of a regular season game.

    Hakeem went up against two All-Stars, and in Shaq one of the other five greatest centers to ever play the game, and out dueled them over the course of a series. He wasn't just hot/dominant for one game, or even just a fraction of one game.
     
  7. EssTooKayTD

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    If i recall correctly, Padgett had some FTs in there, so apparently someone else touched the ball. Might have been a loose ball foul though, hahah.

    Something that sucks to me is that TMac gets all the blame for all the 1st round exits, which really aren't his fault. To add to it, if the Rockets actually do get out of the first round, he will most likely get the least credit for it. Sucks for him.
     
  8. agentkirb87

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    I just explained this in my last post. Reading comprehension is fun btw.

    I don't deny that my knowledge of the Rockets only extends to the title years. Its not fair to continuously t-bag posters because they don't know every ****ing detail about the Rockets.

    And I've already explained that when I said "produced by Hakeem" I was referring to the championship team in general because without Hakeem they never would've even gotten there.


    I'm not trying to back track. I'm using the words from the posts I've made before. You are the one misinterpreting it so that you can continue your attack against newbie Rockets fans, which is a group that I do not belong to. So the **** what if I don't remember moments from before the championships. I'm barely 20 years old, and I simply have not lived long enough to remember.
     
  9. agentkirb87

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    First it was a Yao dunk that got it to an 8 point game. Then Padgett stole the inbounds to make it 6. Spurs FTs put it to 8, and thats when 13/35 happened.
     
  10. durvasa

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    Consistent dominance against quality competition defines the greatness of a player. Like I said, what T-Mac did in that games doesn't compare at all to dominating a playoff series, or a whole postseason like Hakeem did. (and that SA series lasted 6 games, btw).

    But I stand by what I said: I've never seen a more miraculous finish by one player against an opposing team in a clutch situation.
     
  11. BrooksBall

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    There were more FTs by the Spurs during the 13 point run. We needed every one of those 13 consecutive points to win the game.
     
  12. agentkirb87

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    Obviously, they made all the FTs they took. Thats what makes the whole comeback more extraordinary. They scored 17 points in less than 50 seconds.
     
  13. BrooksBall

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    Nobody else on our team effectively touched the ball when McGrady started the 13 point run other than the guys passing the ball in. Yao's and Padgett's baskets came before McGrady went off. Watch the video and check the score before McGrady's first three then check the final score.
     
  14. BrooksBall

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    I never thought it wasn't an amazing comeback. It absolutely was.

    I am just looking at the bigger picture. I saw a couple posters wishing for that McGrady to come back. Yea, we want him to be healthy but that's it. You don't wish for finishes like that. That game was not an example of what this team needs to become great. 1-on-5 basketball doesn't win you championships. The fact is that the Spurs outplayed us that game and McGrady put on a spectacular one man show to squeak out a win in the regular season. We need to start putting on spectacular 5 man shows if we want to become a great team. I understand this thread was created solely to glorify that performance but all I can think about right now is how bad we got whooped by the Lakers and how far this team looks from being where it needs to be.
     
  15. agentkirb87

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    I don't want to extrapolate any of the play during that game to what the Rockets need to do now.

    Thats what makes a comeback a comeback though, you play like crap up until the last minute or so of the game, and then make up for it by getting lucky and making shots, creating turnovers, etc.
     
  16. BrooksBall

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    And I don't think you tried to make any such extrapolations.

    I was just concerned that others were thinking that way. I guess it's not my battle anyways.
     
  17. tinman

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    then why are you throwing hakeem's name around then l? why are you throwing the words rockets history if don't know much about it?
     
  18. linvetb6

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    not only as a rocket but in basketball in general . at least in my book.
     
  19. EssTooKayTD

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    "Mucho, take it easy!" - Nacho

    We were all new Rocket fans at one point or another. Educate and be kind to your brethren, don't alienate them.
     
  20. Supermac34

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    Well, you are in luck. Love him or hate him, McGrady consistently lifts his game up in the playoffs. His playoff statistics rate up there with some of the best ever. He is not a playoff dog, he hasn't made it out of the first round, but if anything, he's usually been the best player in those first rounds that he has been in.
     

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