but did they fear retribution from being "politically incorrect" due to accusing a Muslim of being a terrorist?
What the hell do the actions of a couple of extremists have to do with the actions of a (supposedly) norm and law-bound state? It is telling that in your defense of Israel there is a pleasant lack of any substance and much deflection towards admittedly the worst of all criminals, Islamic extremists. Are you perhaps alleging that because extremist individuals and organizations ABSOLUTELY do not follow the rule of law, that somehow justifies sovereign nations from violating the law partially? Or are you just trying to derail this thread?
I am increasingly concerned about Israel Where is your defense of Isreal? good question. If you're going to bait people into meaningless discussions about Muslim extremists, can you please keep yourself in the right thread at least?
I was responding to AroundTheWorld's post. Chillax, brah. Is it a crime to discuss other peoples' posts in the thread?
It's not a crime (which is why I'm not stepping across for some Internet justice) but I come in this thread expecting people to be arguing something about Israel and instead, I get totally ambushed by Fort Hood Muslim issues. aren't there enough threads discussing that?
I don't know if there are enough threads discussing that. What I do know is that it's not your role to decide.
....the OP is Israeli (i think he said he was, 99% sure), why don't you ask him why Israelis hate themselves so much.
Because they treat the Palestinians like it was apartheid, and make laws that discriminate against them? That would be my guess.
No, probably because of land squabbles back then, and the fact that Israel wasn't living up to their end of other treaties.
No sir, that is unfortunately not the bottom line for me. FYI, the massacre was not for "Allahu Akbar", it was rather someone acting out for being forced into millitary service. What would have been really helpful is if someone said to him "You don't want to go? Well, it IS a free country." Maybe if you shifted your focus to "teaching your own", then you would see where the problem lies. Exhibit A: You think that lapdance-loving, alcohol chugging, gun-happy Hasan has anything whatsoever to do with "my own". The facts are in: - It had nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with perceived flaws in the American military system - Religion aside, the guy's American. Do I ask you to keep an eye on every calm and well-mannered person you bump into? Because according to everything we know, only a handful of people knew of his stress, and none of them were in the mosque. I'm sorry bigtexxx, you seem inclined to somehow group me into something I'm not. The reality of it is, you are more likely to have access to Hasan than me... You are more directly involved with Hasan than me. Hasan is more your own than my own. I have to make it absolutely clear to you that I found your statements offensive. If we are going to help each other with any "policing", then guesstimates, finger-pointing and piss-poor judgement have no room in the equation. Rest assured, if I ever have the opportunity to stop someone from causing harm, I will. It may interest you to know that my religion requires it of all its followers towards all living beings/things. However, it is not my responsibility to question everyone, be skeptical of everyone in a mosque, or intrude on someone's privacy (rights, remember?) without some kind of rational justification beyond "Well, he does seem kind of quiet."
If he didn't want to go, he shouldn't have signed a contract that led the Army to pay for 10 years of schooling in exchange for working for the Army where they want to send him. He was in no way forced to join the Army. Like most mass murderers, he was a whiny, self-absorbed p***y who spent all his time enumerating the ways that he felt wronged by the world.
Why do you keep trying to put words in my mouth and claim that I said it was "your own people". I never said that, and in fact, I even said it probably wasn't your mosque where he attended. He DID ATTEND A MOSQUE IN THE US, whether that was yours or somebody else's mosque. I never said he was one of your people. That said, I'm seeing a ton of Muslims get violently pissed when somebody suggests that other Muslims should help out. Give me a break - you'd think they'd be willing to help out to give them a better name in this country due to all the actions that are dragging their religion's name through the mud right now. But no, instead they get pissed off and mad that people would even suggest that they would need to try to help out. uhhh, ok. It's the difference between being helpful and pissed somebody asked you to do something.
how did you come to the conclusion that the mosque the guy went to was extremist? will you apply the same thing to churches that if a member commits a crime then the whole church is labelled extremist?
