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I am done with Adelman

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Nick, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. txppratt

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    i see six rockets who average 10 points or more a game.

    THAT, my dear OP, is a HUGE DEAL.
     
  2. Shroopy2

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    Kinda off topic but to me this might indicate the lack of importance of the NBA head coach in general. Mark Iavaroni would have a winning record with this team. Vinnie Del Negro has the Bulls in the "right direction", getting just a tad bit of help from #1 pick phenom Derrick Rose. George Karl is looking like a splendid coach again after Chauncey Billups arrived.

    Good thing the front office doesnt go all Steve Kerr making moves just for the sake of doing something different, changing the whole working dynamic of the team. We'd have Brad Miller & Jason Richardson & all kindsa crap trying to fit in. I say after next year it can be out with the old in with the newer.
     
  3. JunkyardDwg

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    Well when you're one of the best teams in the league, there aren't gonna be too many games you win in which you weren't favored. I'd say the only two teams the Rockets wouldn't be favored against are the Lakers and Celtics; they beat neither. But those two teams are on a different level than everyone else right now. They would have beat Cleveland if not for the horrendous officiating and in the Hornets game they were down 2 of their Big Three. Plus I wouldn't be so quick to write off the Orlando victory...this is a 24-6 team that was 9-3 at the time the Rockets beat them.

    I'll agree though that is a talented, veteran team that could win with whoever was coaching. But could another coach do better? I don't think so. Whoever you brought in would still have to deal with all the injury problems this team has...and that's pretty much what's killing them right now.



    While their defense might not be as highly rated as last year, they are much better at the free throw line, so that's almost a wash. The lack of a killer instinct could improve in time, when and if these players get healthy and if Deke signs back up with Houston. Hiis presence on the court and on the bench is something I think this team sorely misses, and not just because Yao needs a backup.
     
  4. denniscd

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    van gundy had nothing to do with the mcgrady trade other than to offer an opinion. he had nothing to do with the free agent signings (good or bad) other than offering an opinion. cd had total control and it led to some conflict as cd and van gundy didnt see players the same way (like swift for example).

    leave it alone....jvg did a great job and adelman is doing one as well...coaching is not our problem. our record is great...we need to get healthy and decide who can finish games the best because we dont finish well right now.
     
  5. Nick

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    Tell that to all the naysayers who believe Van Gundy was the real GM (like Rudy before him), and it was his preference to have all his "former Knick buddies" (when really those signings were more desperate necessity, then simple "desire").

    I do know that once JVG came, we stopped handing out ridiculous contracts to mediocre players (Maloney, Norris, Cato, Maurice Taylor).

    I also think that now that we have a definite guy in charge of personnel (Morey), any coach would be more apt to succeed... as he's done a great job of seeking out talent both through the draft and with trades/free agents.
     
  6. Pringles

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    That is pretty interesting. So it was coincidental that all these ex-Knicks players were assigned to us? Dang...

    How much opinion did he impacted CD?

    Even so... he affected the draft by winning the Denver game. :(

    We handed out Swift a ridiculous contract.
    And I heard Landry/Dorsey were from Morey, but Brooks was picked by Rick.

    Anyways... lets just have a healthy team and then judge. That's how Les treated Jeff. Give him a healthy season which was the series against the Jazz. We were up 2-0, and then lost. So we moved on. If Rick doesn't get the job done, then by all means fire him. But make sure he gets a fair shot.
     
  7. Ashes

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    We're winning, right?
     
  8. code_red

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    Oh, I don't know. What about the Denver Nuggets with AI? They were talented.

    What about LA Clippers? They are talented too, lol.

    Rick Adelman overachieved last year with the 22 consecutive game streak with the Rockets roster. IMO, this year he is on par with what a good NBA coach would get out of this team.

    JVG would probably get similar results with this group and a comparable record.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Anyone saying Van Gundy or Adelman had no say in organizational decisions is deluding themselves.

    DD
     
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  10. Ashes

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    Yeah, I don't know how anyone could honestly sit there and say the Head Coach of an organization has no say in decisions.
     
  11. code_red

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    Of course they did. It's no coincidence that Bonzi stayed a extra year, last year under Adelman. And it's no coincidence that Ron Artest was signed here, given his history with Adelman.
     
  12. Sofine81

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    Nick,

    If you hate the coach and half the team so much, just shut up ano watch the Lakers or the Spurs and stop crying like a baby
     
  13. denniscd

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    how is winning a game blamed on the coach. what exactly did you want to do and who did he play that you did not want in the game.

    and a say is different than the man who decides. all coaches have their opinions but the gm's make the decisions. we should quit trying to blame the coaches for every personell decision and game problem.
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    No GM is going to put together a roster without solid input from the coach. Do you think CD brought in Brunson, Oakley and Ward?

    Come on dennis, I know you side with the coaches, and the ultimate decision does lie with the GM, but they are just as much a team as the players they put on the floor.

    DD
     
  15. Nick

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    I think with CD, he was a little bit more dependant on the coach to have input into how he wanted to build the team... after all, his background was more of an assistant coach than an executive.

    However since Morey has come in, I think he more or less has the ultimate final say... with Les... and that would have been a huge plus during the JVG years where CD was wishy-washy (hell, during the Rudy years especially... where we mysteriously gave out huge contracts to "his" guys).

    I now will say that the original post was out of anger/frustration watching this team struggle to a Jazz team that was missing 3 of its best players. I still think that it was a bad decision to choose Adelman with the idea that he'd make this team more "fun to watch" or "uptempo" (straight from the owners mouth), but he is the coach... and he's more than competent to lead this team (if healthy) to success.
     
  16. Ari

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    For the THIRD TIME in about a week or so, coach Adelman makes a HORRIBLE substitution getting the starters back in when the BENCH was the one responsible for the comeback and playing some defense for a change. Once again, I thought I would express my utter DISGUST and DISTRUST of this guy's coaching instincts. He just INSISTS on sticking with the rotation and putting the lackadaisical starters back into the game, when the bench was the game changer.

    I am DONE with Adelman, as well.
     
  17. BoomShakalaka

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    Rick you are a sorry azz bit****h
     
  18. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    I am far from done with Rick, but I do have a question, why bring in the starters?
     
  19. AGBee

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    Starters come in late in the 4th of a 1 point game and Wizards go on a 5-0 run :(
     
  20. The Brian

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    wow, adelman is easily one of the worst play callers especially during the last possessions.
     

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