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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by UT Baller, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. CriscoKidd

    CriscoKidd Member

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    yah and for every post of "hype" there are posts like yours: emphasizing every negative, stressing untruths and rumors. Half of your lengthy posts are so filled with bs that a lot of people don't want to reply because it takes too much time to correct your biased misinformation.

    You think there is a better option than drafting Ming. Thas cool, that's your opinion. Not everyone shares your opinion, and ranting and b****ing isn't going to change anyone's minds.


    pffft.
     
  2. aelliott

    aelliott Member

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    <i>Odom is one of very few non-PGs that can lead a break.
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    Then how come the Clippers have never been a running team in the 3 years that Odom has been there?
     
  3. bigboymumu

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    Ming is a center because he plays center. He played center in the CBA, he played center for the national team and he played center in the Olympics.
     
  4. aelliott

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    What am I missing here? Specifically what did Jerry West say? I searched the Chronicle and these are the quotes I found. None of those bother me. Is there one that I'm missing?

    Why is it such a big deal because Yao doesn't play like Shaq? Physically and style wise, he's much closer to Jabbar than Shaq. Is that neccessarily a bad thing?

    <i>"A guy like him, I believe, is going to be a good NBA player, but it's going to take him some time to get where he wants to get," said Jerry West , general manager of the Memphis Grizzlies. "The biggest adjustment for Yao will be adapting to the level of competition from other big guys.
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    <i>I don't think it's a roll of the dice," said West of drafting Yao . "There will be a place for him in the NBA."
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    <i>"How many low-post players are there in the NBA? There are not that many," Grizzlies president Jerry West said when asked if Yao will be physical enough against NBA centers. "I think the biggest adjustment for him will be the level of competition."

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    West would not say if he considered Yao worth the first pick of the draft, but he did not see much risk in choosing him.

    "A team like Chicago has two terrific young big guys (Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler), so maybe they are looking a different direction," West said. "A guy like him will be a nice NBA player, but it is going to take him some time to get where you want him.

    "I don't think it is a roll of the dice. He will be a player in the NBA. His size alone is unique; his shooting skill is unique. I think the things he can do as a big player, the coaches will like that. Everyone is looking for a center, so I think that will make him even more valuable."

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    "For a guy this size, he can shoot the ball. He has a wonderful feel for the game. This is not a kid without talent. He has talent."
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    <i>He's got a remarkable shooting touch for someone that big," West, the newly hired Grizzlies president of basketball operations, said after Yao's 75-minute workout inside the tiny gym on the campus of Loyola University. "People like size, and particularly, skill. He's got that. He's going to be drafted in the top five."
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  5. aelliott

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    <i>Francis prefers the wing, and goes to the wing like a magnet. Odom is one of very few non-PGs that can lead a break</i>

    Francis doesn't go to the wing, he goes to the glass. The problem is that once he gets the rebound, he's not a one man fast break like Jason Kidd. As long as Francis is crashing the boards, then he's not going to be running the wings consistantly. Either Francis will have to quit going to the boards or he's going to have to learn to push the ball. Somehow, I don't see Francis rebounding, throwing outlet passes and also filling the lanes.


    Why do you think that Odom is that great at leading a fast break? He didn't lead many fast breaks with the Clippers, so why will he all of a sudden transform us into a running team? If Odom was that good at leading a fast break, then shouldn't the Clippers have been a good running team?
     
  6. Rocket River

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    So . . since Ming isn't the answer in the post
    WHO IS? In your senario ODOM isn't. You admit Hilario isn't.
    Are you saying we don't NEED a post presense. . .because
    honestly. . . you have not given us one.

    Rocket River
     
  7. RocketsPimp

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    Good call aelliott!

    Actually I thought the Clipps were primarily a running team. That aspect is what made them exciting to watch this past season. Unfortunately for them, that is about all they could do.
     
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    And how many games was Odom featured in the past season?
     
  9. tozai

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    aelliott--How can you say the Clippers are not a fast-break team? How many games of theirs have you watched the past 2 years? I remember many occasions when Miles, Maggette, Odom, and McInnis were on some sort of break. How do you think Miles got most of his points, jumpshots? They were all fast-break dunks.
    Which teams do run the fast-break alot?

    1.NJ
    2.Sacramento
    3.Dallas
    4.LAC
    5.Tell Me????
     
  10. aelliott

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    <i>aelliott--How can you say the Clippers are not a fast-break team? How many games of theirs have you watched the past 2 years? I remember many occasions when Miles, Maggette, Odom, and McInnis were on some sort of break. How do you think Miles got most of his points, jumpshots? They were all fast-break dunks.
    Which teams do run the fast-break alot?

    1.NJ
    2.Sacramento
    3.Dallas
    4.LAC
    5.Tell Me????
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    The Clippers finished 25th out of 29 teams in fast break points. The Rockets were 28th.

    The top 5 teams in the league for fast break points were:

    1. New Jersey
    2. Sacramento
    3. Toronto
    4. Dallas
    5. Indiana

    The bottom 5 were:

    25. Los Angeles Clippers
    26. New York
    27. Miami
    28. Houston
    29. Washington
     
  11. UT Baller

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    RR-We did draft that guy from Seton Hall.....from a couple of sources I have heard that EG is actually around 7' and has bulked up since the offseason. According to other sources he is developing his game in the post and is much further along then he was during the season.

    Everybody....you know if you have a problem with what I am saying just ignore it. I personally disagree with what Rudy and Co. are trying (or actually not trying) to do. I am sorry if I dont like this guy whose nuts many of you all are swinging from, but I dont. He may turn out to be the best thing since sliced bread and if so fine, great. I will admit that I was wrong and root for the guy, if he works out. That being said I still really hope that something happens that prevents us from getting him.
     
  12. Scarface

    Scarface Supremely FocASSed
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    aelliot summed up the biggest difference between Kidd and Francis right there folks. Kidd will get the rebound and just take off as if he's been shot out of a cannon. Francis will get the board and cradle it like he's a running back trying to avoid fumbling the ball. If Francis can learn to just take off with the ball and create some 3 on 1 situations we will improve a great deal.

    bigboy I didn't know you were a golfer? I have some great videos you might want to check out, "Dorf on Golf". That video helped me lower my handicap substantially....
     
  13. Rocket River

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    So you say Griff can DEVELOPE a post game. . but MING cannot?

    Rocket River
     
  14. bigboymumu

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    Scarface-
    You know me.:D

    Send me some of those other videos. The ones of all of us playing football. :D
     
  15. tozai

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    aelliott--
    Interesting stat there. It's weird though because I saw a good amount of Clippers games and they fast-breaked way more than NY(one of the most boring, slow ugly basketball teams). I guess some stats don't lie, but I still think Clippers were a fast-break team. Weird.... Don't you remember Miles & Q throwing up dunks and alley-oops on the break all the time as well at McInnis and Maggette running alot? The Clippers were well known as an exciting team with an uptempo running style, yet your stat contradicts that. Surprising...Where did you get those stats by the way...just curious
     
  16. aelliott

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  17. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    You hit it on the head Crisco. I put him on my ignore list a while back because he just comes up with **** and doesn't back it up with anything worth mentioning. I just wish he would change his moniker to Aggie Baller or something like that because he really gives longhorns a bad name.:mad:

    I am hoping UT stands for Utah which would explain alot.:D
     
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