I'm definitely an exception to that rule. Mrs JB and I met when we were both 22. We lived together for 3 years and got married when I was 26 and she was 25. We'll have been married 9 years in October. I know lots of people who get married successfully at a young age. In fact, you are FAR more likely to be divorced on your SECOND marriage than you are on your first. It's a 50/50 shot on your first marriage. The divorce rate jumps to almost 70 percent on your second go around. If you don't want to commit or aren't in love, don't do it, but age shouldn't be a factor.
Wow, thanks for all the replies thus far. For people wondering, I don't plan on getting married any time soon. I'll be a junior next year (turn 20 next week!) and I plan on graduating college, completing grad school, establishing myself in a job before I even think about marriage. Basically, I want to get my life squared away. As for being single this upcoming year. I want to play the field some. Get out and meet a bunch of new people and check out all the new girls that will be living around me. Have fun with my friends and attend all the football games (hopefully, UF can get out of our bad streak). I'm not going to have too much time for a girlfriend. Though like most girls, I think this girl sees some seriousness in our relationship. I have more of a realistic view - though it has been fun I'm not getting married any time soon and I'm not ready for a strict commitment. She essentially knew my attitude going into this, but I feel that lately she has forgotten this and is assuming that we are getting more serious.
The only thing good about having a GF is the guaranteed p***y, and going to nice dinners. Other than that, there's not much good that can come out of having a girl at 20. My advice: go buy a bottle of Cuervo and sixer of Coors Light. Take some shots, throw back a few beers, and hit up the town. You'll have an awesome night. Just remember to buy some condoms. Last time I had a random hook up, I had a very uneasy few days until the STD tests were back negative.
Did you just use the word "fornicate"?????? BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!! I thought they quit using that word when John Winthrop, Anne Hutchinson, and Thomas Hooker died.
Playing cards Playing basketball Watching a movie Watching television Spending time with his family Listening to music (such as Nick Drake's "Pink Moon") Taking a jog Working out at the local gym Relaxing in general Taking a road trip with some of his buddies Etc... I know it is hard to believe for some of you guys, but there is more to life than booze and sex. But I guess I cant blame you for thinking that way - after all, that is what college is supposed to be about, right??
Manny, you sound like an episode of 7th Heaven. My advice: Have fun now, because the real world sucks. However, keep in mind that, despite what others here have been saying, you CAN have fun and still have a girlfriend. Worked for me in college, and now I'm married to that girlfriend. You just have to learn how to balance the two (or get her to like the "fun" you like ). Having the best of both worlds truly is... well... the best of both worlds. Play the field if you must, but you DO know what they say about the grass being greener on the other side...
Exactly. It might be fun to avoid the arguments and occasionally doldrums of a long-term relationship...but I'd much rather have that warm, familiar body to snuggle up next to every night.
I wish I could find myself a w****. girls just think I'm rude for some reason. that and maybe a little ugly.
I don't know why everyone thinks having a girlfriend has to cramp your style. If you let the girl know who you really are upfront and she wants to hang in there great. "You know I really like you babe, but I'm the kind of guy who likes to run with my homies, chase the young hotties and have an occasional menage' a tois with the crack whores from down at the strip club. I don't ever want to work hard enough to have any money and I'm way too undependable to ever had children. " See, you just tell her the truth up front. If she bugs out she didn't want the real you anyway. If she stays she's got no cause for drama.
Positives: Can get all the honies you want, no one nagging or cramping your style, enjoying the free life... Negatives: If you don't hook up with a girl every time, go home alone and log on to Clutch...oh nevermind...
Maybe I have issues, (Actually I KNOW I have issues), but I just have to say I don't think I've ever disagreed MORE with a statement than this one.
here is an article from USA Today that talks about a phenomenon in Japan of singles deciding to stay single. Pretty interesting read. No sex please — we're Japanese By Paul Wiseman, USA TODAY TOKYO — Junko Sakai was nervously looking forward to a romantic getaway with the man she'd been seeing. But when they arrived at a seaside hotel last fall, her beau requested separate rooms. Stunned, Sakai nonetheless anticipated a late-night knock on the door. It never came. "Nothing happened," the Tokyo writer says. Nothing is happening with depressing regularity between Japanese men and women these days. Marriages, births and hanky-panky are all spiraling downward with troubling implications for the nation's future: A sagging birthrate means that fewer working-age people will be around to support a growing population of elderly; a social crisis looms. Only in Japan would a popular weekly newsmagazine deem it necessary to exhort the nation's youth to abstain from sexual abstinence: "Young people, don't hate sex," AERA magazine pleaded last month in a report detailing a precarious drop in sales of condoms and in business at Japan's rent-by-the-hour "love hotels." More and more Japanese men and women are finding relationships too messy, tiring and potentially humiliating to bother with anymore. "They don't want a complicated life," says Sakai, who has written a controversial bestseller, Cry of the Losing Dogs, on the plight of unmarried Japanese thirtysomething women like herself. And so, to an astonishing degree, men and women go their separate ways — the women to designer boutiques and chic restaurants with their girlfriends or moms, the men to karaoke clubs with their colleagues from work or the solitude of their computer screens to romance hassle-free virtual women. "Men don't want to spend time with their girlfriends, especially shopping," says Takayuki Mori, 40, a single man who works for a Tokyo advertising agency. He says he isn't dating. Better educated, more widely traveled and raised in more affluence than their mothers, young women no longer feel bound by the Japanese tradition that says a woman unmarried after age 25 is like a Christmas cake on Dec. 26 — stale. Men, meanwhile, seem intimidated and bewildered by assertive young women who are nothing like their moms. As a result of the disconnect between genders, Japan, just emerging from a long economic slump, is experiencing a social recession in: •Marriage. Japanese are postponing marriage or avoiding it altogether. Weddings dropped last year for the second straight year. Fifty-four percent of Japanese women in their late 20s are single, up from 30.6% in 1985. About half of single Japanese women ages 35 to 54 have no intention to marry, according to a survey in January by the Japan Institute of Life Insurance. •Births. Just 1.1 million babies were born in Japan last year, the third straight decline. The average Japanese couple now produces just 1.32 children, well below the minimum 2.08 needed to compensate for deaths. As a result of plummeting birth rates, Japan's population is expected to peak in 2006, and then decline rapidly. •Sex. In a 2001 survey, condom maker Durex found that Japan ranked dead last among 28 countries in the frequency of sex: The average Japanese had sex just 36 times a year. Hong Kong was next to last with 63. (Americans ranked No. 1 at 124 times a year.) dayum...124 times a year! I ain't getting near that much action oops. I think I've just revealed too much AERA reports that condom shipments are down 40% since 1993 (probably in part because Japan finally legalized birth-control pills in 1999) and love-hotel check-ins are off at least 20% over the past five years. What's more, an increasing number of those visiting love hotels aren't there for romance, AERA says; they've found that love hotels offer the cheapest access to karaoke machines and video games. I won't get married! Over tea in the sunlit lobby of the Akasaka Prince Hotel near the Imperial Palace in downtown Tokyo, and later over soba noodles and chicken yakatori at a nearby restaurant, Japanese writer and television personality Yoko Haruka describes the shortcomings of love and marriage Japanese-style. The husband works long hours and carouses into the night with his pals from work. The wife is expected to stay home, clean house and take care of kids. If the children behave badly, she's a bad mother. If her husband has an affair, she's a bad wife. The author of Kekkon Shimasen (I Won't Get Married!), Haruka abandoned her own plans for marriage a decade ago when she realized her fiancé wanted her to give up her career and lead the traditional life of a Japanese housewife. She says Japanese men sometimes propose to women with lines like: "I want you to cook miso soup for me the rest of my life." Not surprisingly, Japan's increasingly educated and well-traveled young women are not impressed. "I'm not expecting men will change," Haruka says. Her assistant, Miho Higuchi, who has kept silent throughout the conversation, suddenly blurts out: "Never again!" A mother of three, she divorced her husband because he refused to do anything to help her clean house and take care of the kids. In fact, Japan's divorce rate rose steadily to 2.3 divorces for every 1,000 people in 2002 from 1.3 in 1990; it appears to have dropped a bit last year, partly because fewer people have been getting married. (The divorce rate in the USA was 4 per 1,000 people in 2002. ) As for men, they seem bewildered by the rising assertiveness of Japanese women. "Men are getting weaker," says Takayuki Tokiwa, 23, a student at a Tokyo vocational college. "Women don't have to rely on men anymore. They can live on their own." Masahito Wakauchi, 24, would seem to be a good catch. He has fashionably wavy hair and a good job with an advertising agency in Tokyo. Is he dating? Wakauchi shakes his head sadly. "It's very, very difficult" to meet women these days, he says. Rather than risk rejection or summon the energy to maintain a modern relationship, many Japanese men simply pay for affection in the country's ubiquitous hostess bars and brothels. Others prefer virtual women online to the real kind. "They seem to find the relationship cumbersome. ... You have to be attentive to your partner," says Kunio Kitamura, president of the Japan Family Planning Association's Family Planning Clinic. "A quick way to get satisfaction is so-called cybersex." In fact, as many as a million young men — mostly teenagers, but increasingly older men as well — suffer from what is known here as hikikomori. It's a condition in which they seclude themselves in their rooms for weeks at a time (though the causes seem to go well beyond fear of women to traumatic experiences from the past, such as being bullied at school). But most young Japanese seem to enjoy the single life. In 1973, a Japanese government survey found that the happiest people in the country were those over age 60. A similar survey 24 years later found that the happiest people were in their 20s, and twentysomething women were the happiest of all: 77.7% said they were content with their lives. Maybe Gloria Steinem was right: Women need men like fish need bicycles. Many young Japanese women live carefree lives, staying at home with their parents, paying little if any rent, letting their mothers cook their meals, clean their rooms and do their laundry. Many work dead-end jobs that don't pay much but don't cause much stress and give them enough spending money to buy designer handbags, shoes, clothes and jewelry and enough time to take overseas holidays with their girlfriends. Emerging from the Louis Vuitton shop on Namikibashi street in the heart of the Ginza shopping district, Tokyo secretary Yukiko Matsumoto, 38, says she's happily single and living at home with herparents. "I don't want to change my rhythms," she says. "Men expect women to stay home and take care of them." Not likely: Matsumoto travels abroad twice a year with her best friend and shopping companion, Terumi Yanagibashi, 38. They've already been to Hawaii together three times. 'Parasite singles' A few years ago, Tokyo Gakugei University sociologist Masahiro Yamada coined the phrase "parasite singles" to describe young people who sponge off their parents and use their rent-free incomes to splurge on designer goodies, expensive dinners and trips abroad. It came from the 1997 Japanese horror movie Parasite Eve and applies to young, live-at-home men and women alike, though Yamada says the most carefree of the parasite singles tend to be women; the men are more serious about establishing careers and moving out on their own one day. The phrase caught on. Some single women even printed up business cards defiantly describing themselves as "parasite singles." In the past, it made sense for young people to leave home early. In the 1940s and 1950s, Japanese families were large. Staying at home meant sharing a room with brothers or sisters. But after decades of prosperity and falling birthrates, many young adults are pampered only children. Leaving home to marry means the drudgery of housework (especially for women) and the poverty of having to pay your own bills. Sociologist Yamada says the single life in Japan isn't as blissful as it seems. For one thing, many young women still want to marry: They keep waiting for the perfect man — a rich handsome guy who either helps with the housework or can afford to hire help. But Prince Charming never quite arrives. "They hold on to the illusion they will find a man with a high income," Yamada says. "The good men are all married," writer Junko Sakai says. "Those left behind are all nerds or without jobs or violent or not nice-looking." ouch And what happens to the parasite singles when their parents become infirm or die? Yamada says their future is grim. He cites one case study that he fears will be a model for the future. A woman lived with her parents until they died, inherited the family home but found that her job didn't pay enough now that her parents weren't around to foot the bill for groceries and other necessities. She ended up bankrupt after borrowing heavily in a futile effort to maintain her lifestyle. The phenomenon of parasite singles also is creating a demographic nightmare. Japan now has about four working-age people to contribute to pension plans to support one of today's retirees. By the middle of the century, there will be just two workers for each retiree, which will create huge financial problems for the country. Yamada says young men and women need to get more realistic. Men need to start helping with the housework and supporting their wives' careers. Women need to stop waiting for the flawless man who's never going to show up. "They've got to compromise," he says. But it's going to take a lot of convincing to get Japanese women to give up their independence. Sakai says Japanese society still thinks there's something wrong with unmarried women over the age of, say, 30. She calls spinsters like herself "losing dogs." But fewer and fewer women care about tradition. "I know I'm a losing dog," Sakai says, "but I'm quite satisfied with my life." Contributing: Naoko Nishiwaki in Tokyo
Do what you want to do. If you don't want to be with her dump her. If you want to stay with her, stay with her. Don't rely on someone who's not you telling you that you should or shouldn't do something based on age, what year you are in school, or anything else. Follow your heart, live your life.
No kidding. The standards of most of the people on this board are far different than mine. Most of what people on here describe as "having fun" is terribly boring and uninteresting to me and has been my entire life. I've never been one to want to party and don't really like 'going out' to any great degree. If I'm with someone in a dating-type thing, I'm with them because I enjoy being with them. But I know there are lots of other people who have a great time going out and hitting the town. Me? I'd rather stay home.
