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[Hypothetical] Who should McCain have picked?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by baller4life315, Oct 19, 2008.

  1. weslinder

    weslinder Member

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    I don't think you understand the Bradley effect. Bradley effect is the hypothesis that Black candidates poll higher in opinion polls than on election day. That some people will tell pollsters that they're voting for the black guy (or gal) so the pollster won't think that they're racist. It would widen the race rather than make it closer.
     
  2. xelloss12

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    I do. That's why I said that I think racists are less inclined to lie to pollsters. Thus removing the Bradley effect.

    Here's a good article on it if you want to read it.

    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/search/label/bradley effect
     
  3. IROC it

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    I'd venture a guess that when put on the spot, some are saying Obama to avoid appearing racist... and some saying they're undecided are less clever racists. So it's anyone's guess...

    Of course, then there's people like me that can honestly say they don't like Obama's policy. Who knows. We'll all find out though... won't we?


    Why then are some Carter era Dems on the Obama team? Google "Obama ties to Jimmy Carter's national security adviser Brzezinski" and see what pops up. Why is that? -BTW, Brzezinski has intimated some of the same views about Obama's foreign policy that Jesse Jackson recently mentioned... Curious.
     
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  4. xelloss12

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    There might be some people when polled who said they'd vote McCain to appear more acceptable to their Republican peers and vote for Obama as well. Guess we'll find out Nov 4/5.

    Because Obama has some Carter people means that's he'll doomed to follow Carters footsteps? Does that mean since Gordon Liddy's a good friend of McCain that he'll follow Nixon if elected?

    Brzezinski also worked under Reagan and G.H.W. Bush as well fyi.
     
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    I read it, and it's nothing new. I've never really believed in the Bradley effect. I thought it was an excuse by bad poll-takers. Anyone who has tried to predict the Bradley effect since Bradley has missed the boat.
     
  6. xelloss12

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    Guess we just misunderstood each other then. :D
     
  7. Spacemoth

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    I think Huckabees is in a good position to make a run for the Republican nomination in 2012; he's got the Reagan-karma going and Lord knows McCain was trying his darndest to establish his six degrees of separation in the first couple debates. If he had been offered the nomination, I wouldn't be surprised if he turned it down. He had good momentum in the primaries, but so did John Edwards and Joe Liebermann, and he wouldn't have wanted to go down that road.

    Same thing for Colin Powell, I bet he would have (if he did not already) turned it down if offered. Honestly, a responsible pick on McCain's part would have led to a slow and gradual yet still close and respectable defeat instead of what's happening now.

    Palin was like a shot of heroin for him. He had his high for a while and boy was it glorious. But every artificial high is gonna come crashing down eventually.
     
  8. thacabbage

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    You guys on the front page are kidding yourselves if you think Michael Bloomberg was going to play second fiddle to a guy he's a better candidate than himself.

    Sarah Palin was absolutely the right choice.
     
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    Up until this weekend I'm surprised anyone outside of MN heard of Michelle Bachman. As for "weighty resume" her resume is as light, if not lighter than, Sarah Palin's, Served a few terms in the Minnesota House and 1 term as US House Rep.

    The only things she brings are she's as conservative as conservative can get and also looks pretty good.
     

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