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Hypothetical: Switch James Harden with another Star

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Dec 7, 2020.

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Name players that if your Switched James Harden with them . . . . would have won a championship in t

  1. LeBron

    63 vote(s)
    68.5%
  2. Steph

    14 vote(s)
    15.2%
  3. Kawhi

    32 vote(s)
    34.8%
  4. KD

    29 vote(s)
    31.5%
  5. Other

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%
  6. No one could have won with those teams.

    14 vote(s)
    15.2%
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  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    Serious Question: Name players that if your Switched James Harden with them . . . . would have won a championship in the last 8 years?
    Would have come as close?

    Steph + Cp3 = Championship?
    LeBron + CP3?

    Start with the Top 5:
    LeBron
    Steph
    Kawhi
    KD
    Kyrie?

    Take them and put them on the teams Harden played on
    Put Harden on the teams they played on.

    Do they win Championships as those teams were composed?
    Do they come as close to champtions.
    Which Team would you say had the best shot?


    Rocket River
     
  2. chenjy9

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    From that list, really only LeBron.
     
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  3. apollo33

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    Trick question, we wouldnt have built our team like we did if we had any of the players above. Probably wouldn't have hired Dan Tony.

    Also probably would have had better FA signings with LeBron on this team
     
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    Lebron wouldn’t play on a team with any A Rockets roster we’ve had other than 2018. He would team up with another guy some where else.
     
  5. Rocket River

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    Perhaps
    but do you have an answer to the question as posed?

    Rocket River
     
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    Harden switched with Kawhi certainly still beats the hobbled Warriors.

    LeBron very well may have gone back to back with CP3. The rest of them no doubt make the Rockets worse

    I'm not sure how this poll is supposed to work, but LeBron>Harden>Kawhi
     
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    You'd have to switch owners first.

    But yeah I believe Lebron and CP3 would have gotten better role players to sign.

    Lebron would have gotten a third star or borderline allstar at least.

    LBJ get you to the Finals at the very least.

    Not just on the court, he has all the connections to players and player agents.

    That aspect is overlooked.
     
  8. Rocket River

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    LeBron and maybe KD are the only two that I think have a shot

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  9. Rocket River

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    I don't think he beats the Hobbled Warriors at all.
    1. He beat a team with a no KD and no Klay - both played against the Rockets
    2. I think you seriously underestimate the play of Lowry and Siakam

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    That's what I meant, Harden would have beaten the hobbled Warriors if given a chance, Raptors or Rockets.

    It a confusing poll.
     
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    LeBron, maybe KD.
     
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    All things being equal, only LeBron would have brought us a ring
     
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    Lebron with CP3 lacks enough offensive firepower to take down GSW led by Durant, Steph, Klay, Draymond & Iggy.

    Lebron had better complementary players in Cleveland (Kyrie, Love, Tristan) and were swept.

    Durant is addition by subtraction.

    KD and CP3 would have given GSW the toughest challenge but doubt they beat them.

    KD could not even beat GSW with Russ & Ibaka.

    CP3, Ariza, Clint, Luc are far less talented than the players he had in OKC.
     
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    Jimmy buckets in 2017
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    Curry, Lebron and pre-iniury KD are the obvious ones for me.


    Kawhi is iffy.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    Curry is iffy to me

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    There we go, end thread.
     
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    Only lebron and KD. Everyone else no
     
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    I can see why. He doesn't have the same durability as Harden but he's far more versatile of a superstar player who is much easier to build around as there isn't as many constraints on specific type of players that do well with him unlike Harden. Curry can be ball dominant like Harden and be Reggie Miller instantly.
     

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