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Hypersonic Successor to Legendary SR-71 Blackbird Spy Plane Finally Unveiled

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  1. KingCheetah

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    Hypersonic Successor to Legendary SR-71 Blackbird Spy Plane Unveiled

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    Lockheed Martin’s famed Skunk Works has finally unveiled the long-awaited successor to the SR-71 Blackbird. Aviation Week and Space Technology’s Guy Norris pulled the covers off the project that Lockheed Martin is simply calling the SR-72. The new airplane will be roughly the same size as the record-setting Blackbird, but will be able to fly twice as fast as the jet that still holds the speed records.

    The new spy plane will be capable of Mach 6 cruise speeds, making it the first hypersonic aircraft to enter service should it be produced. Only the rocket-powered North American X-15 was able to regularly fly those speeds, and the three examples built were used for research. The SR-71 Blackbird is legendary in aviation circles for its Mach 3 capabilities, and different iterations served as a spy plane for 35 years until its retirement in 1998. It still holds several records, including a flight from Los Angeles to Washington D.C. in 64 minutes, 20 seconds.

    The new SR-72 has long been rumored and debated, and is part of the U.S. Air Force’s plan for hypersonic capabilities that will allow fast reaction for gathering intelligence around the world. A Mach 6 airplane fills the gap between current surveillance aircraft that can loiter for long periods of time, but don’t have the ability to transit to a new area quickly. The SR-72 is also expected to have optional strike capabilities, according to Aviation Week.

    The key to the new airplane, as it was with the SR-71, will be the engines. Lockheed Martin told Aviation Week the company has been working with Aerojet Rocketdyne to build an air breathing engine that combines both a traditional turbine and a scramjet to deliver the Mach 6 performance.

    Normal turbine jet engines have problems operating at speeds beyond Mach 2. The original SR-71 used a complicated system of a movable nose cone on the engine, along with vents that prevented shockwaves from interfering with the flow, and slowed the air down enough so that it could be ingested by the engine. Though “unstarts” were a regular problem for Blackbird pilots, and caused problems throughout the life of the airplane.

    The new SR-72 will use a turbine-based combined cycle (TBCC) that will employ the turbine engine at lower speeds, and use a scramjet at higher speeds. A scramjet engine is designed to operate at hypersonic velocities by compressing the air through a carefully designed inlet, but needs to be traveling supersonic before it is practical to begin with. So far research projects from NASA, the Air Force and other Pentagon entities have not been able to solve the problem of transitioning from the subsonic flight regime, through hypersonic flight with a single aircraft.

    Lockheed Martin told Aviation Week it has found a way to use existing turbine engines, and by lowering the operating speed of the scramjet, make a transition to hypersonic speeds possible.

    The aerospace company says it may have a scaled demonstrator of the SR-72 technology flying by 2023. That airplane would be smaller, about the size of the current F-22 fighter and would be optionally piloted. The SR-72 could enter service by 2030.

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    And it will cost 9 trillion to produce....



    Is there really a need for something like this?
     
  3. Mr. Brightside

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    yes, b/c America #1
     
  4. Space Ghost

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    you're right. lets stick to bows and arrows and leather armor.
     
  5. KingCheetah

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    Uh yeah, that plane is badass.
     
  6. Salvy

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    Wrong design... Found the actual one....


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    Meh is what I say. Aren't we supposed to have warp technology by now?
     
  8. B-Bob

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    Nicely done, Salvy. Appreciate the correction of KingCheetah's sloppy post.
     
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    Does it come in other colors?
     
  10. heypartner

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    Because it is faster than the fastest air-to-air missile and SAMS. The fastest missile used to shoot down planes is Mach 4.5. This is Mach 6. The legendary Blackbird was shot down by a missile. This one will out run any missile.

    So, this plane can do surveillance anywhere. What would be strategically very useful is if it could deliver and drop surveillance drones as well. But it would have to slow down to do that, as unprecedented aerodynamics and air-flow control systems appear to be the technology breakthrough.

    Question to KC -- how much of that plane is a big fuel tank? Can it hold anything else? What's it's maximum range
     
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    SR-71 has been out of commission for 20 years. Spy sats do everything. Aurora has been rumored, obviously doesn't exist. This plane doesn't exist. Won't ever exist. So no, there is no need. And no, this isn't a story.
     
  12. Salvy

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    Your welcome..... Just wanted to make sure that the right design was posted and not just one of the concept designs.... Good choice if you ask me... Would look great on some sports team jersey....
     
  13. KingCheetah

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    Wow, you're exceptionally wrong on this one -- the initial engine didn't work, but the AF never gave up on the project to make a replacement to the SR-71. The original design was a pulse detonation wave engine - the new one is a turbine/ scramjet combo -- spy sats and drones can only only cover so much area -- when you need instant recon you need speed.
     
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    The Blackbird was never shot down -- only mech failures.

    Second question -- who knows..?
     
  15. Bandwagoner

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    you didn't list anything I was wrong about.
     
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    I think you got mixed up with the U-2 the USSR shot down in the 60's or the F-117 Stealth Bomber that was shot down over Kosovo in the late 90's. The SR-71 was never shot down by any missile
     
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    Development times in today's technology world always fascinate me. The U2 Spyplane went from initial funding/approval to being in service in something like 16 months back in the '50s. This thing is 15 years away?
     
  18. Deckard

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    I've always thought retiring the SR-71 was a mistake, unless a replacement was ready. Similar to spending a vast sum to put up the International Space Station and then having no means to man it without being dependent on a spacecraft of ancient (for a spacecraft) design used by a country that was your enemy for many decades.
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    Two different situations. We are getting the job done with sats and tiny stealth drones that are expendable. Plus other means of intelligence. Information is obtained in much different ways now than it was in the 70's.

    The shuttle cancellation, Orion and vehicle delay was just a complete f up that makes us the laughing stock of space capable countries.
     
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    I have to disagree. There are times when satellites aren't in position and take a while to get there, and they have also have finite quantity of fuel with which to change orbit, etc. Drones are immensely slower. When intelligence from the air is needed and needed yesterday, there is, or rather was no substitute for the Blackbird. I would bet good money that folks high up in the intelligence community wish they had them today.

    Totally agree about our manned spacecraft situation, or rather you agree with me. ;-)-
     

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