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Hurricanes, Floods, Wildfires, and Tornado Season Without FEMA

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, Mar 18, 2025.

  1. Andre0087

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    Well Congress has come together even in recent years to pass legislation to help disaster victims so one would hope that trend will be continuing in the future. Under the "Hurricanes Harvey, Irma, and Maria Education Relief Act of 2017" thousands of homes were built and old ones demolished with the assistance of the Texas GLO, my sister being a recipient of one.
     
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  2. Amiga

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    You can put her on ignore.

    This is a fundamental change for FEMA and will affect everyone sooner or later. It will have a significant impact on disaster response - although the details remain to be determined. According to this EO, state and local governments will be responsible for managing their own disaster relief and preparedness programs, likely having to fund these initiatives themselves. In effect, each state will have its own SEMA (State Emergency Management Agency), which it can arrange and manage as it sees fit, including financing its operations. The federal government will no longer be directly involved in these activities, although it may still provide funding for disasters. However, it appears that there won't be a pooled "federal disaster fund." Instead, each disaster might require executive and congressional action to request funding. This means that each state will likely need its own disaster fund to handle local emergencies immediately, with the possibility of later reimbursement from the federal level.

    Achieving Efficiency Through State and Local Preparedness – The White House
     
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  3. rimrocker

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    Congress does come together for red state disasters. For blue state disasters, there's a disturbing and accelerating trend of not coming together. Just ask Ted about Hurricane Sandy.
     
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  4. GOATuve

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    January 6th, 2021.[/QUOTE]
    ..Why do you keep posting MAGA stuff towards me?
     
  5. Amiga

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    BTW, the Stafford Act (1988) is the legal framework for federal disaster response and recovery. It authorizes federal assistance to state/local governments during major emergencies/disasters, establishes FEMA's role in federal disaster relief and recovery, details how and when federal resources can be mobilized, how assistance is distributed, what types of support are available, requirements for receiving support, and procedures for cost-sharing between the federal government and affected states, etc.

    This EO could violate this Act if it undermines its core provisions - the fed’s role in coordinating disaster response and providing financial assistance.
     
  6. Amiga

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    OTOH, red states might lean more toward the "you’re on your own" mentality, and while they provide relief where they can, it’s not as "generous" as in blue states.

    So, if you think being in a red state means you’re MORE okay, you might want to think again.
     
  7. Kemahkeith

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    Reported.
    Racial appropriation
     
  8. mvpcrossxover

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    Because jan 6th was the real meltdown.

    So you admit jan 6th was a MAGA doing.
     
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  9. rimrocker

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    It seems that the administration is looking at any FEMA initiative that might help immigrants directly or indirectly. Splitting things out this way goes against the foundation of emergency management and the science around post-disaster suffering, disease, and community recovery. Already, DHS has said they will scour emergency shelters for immigrants when those places were once rightly off limits because we don't want people dying in a hurricane or fire because they were afraid to seek shelter. Now, it might get worse because we may not even allow them to enter a shelter:

    The Trump administration is reviewing “all disaster relief programs that may indirectly or incidentally aid illegal aliens,” according to an internal memo that raises the prospect of shutting off government aid to millions of people during extreme weather events.

    The two-page memo sent to senior officials at the Federal Emergency Management Agency and its 10 regional offices on Feb. 14 also orders the agency to review nongovernmental organizations that “provide assistance” to undocumented immigrants. That could include groups like the American Red Cross that offer food, shelter and medical care to disaster survivors regardless of their immigration status.

    The review, which has not been previously reported, has alarmed advocacy groups that work with the roughly 11 million undocumented migrants within the U.S. who could be barred from disaster shelters during deadly hurricanes, wildfires or floods.
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    The memo, which FEMA disclosed in a court filing, appears to be so expansive that it could affect programs that were created to help individuals who have evacuated their homes, along with communities that face huge cleanup and rebuilding costs after disasters.

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    FEMA’s review could threaten activities by the Red Cross, a federally chartered aid group that has an agreement with FEMA to provide emergency services such as shelter, food and supplies. The agreement notes that “the Red Cross provides services to those in need regardless of citizenship, race, religion, age, sex, national origin, disability, sexual orientation, veteran status, or political affiliation.”

    https://www.eenews.net/articles/fema-memo-targets-disaster-aid-that-indirectly-helps-migrants/
     
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  10. rimrocker

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    These centers collect and analyze the bulk of the data that goes into monthly and seasonal outlooks and all forecasts, which allow the wildland fire community, emergency managers in hurricane areas, and others to plan and prepare efficiently.

    [​IMG]

    There will be some residual expertise amidst the degraded and disappeared products, but much less of it thanks to the personnel cuts. However, that won't last long because the rate conditions are changing outstrips our earned expertise. We need to constantly be exposed to new data because things are no longer predictable, no longer stable. The reality of climate change does not care about ideological positions.

    This will be like driving a car with a blacked-out windshield down the interstate in busy traffic after your idiot cousin sold the seat belts and air bags for one little high. Our ability to efficiently manage risk has declined significantly.

    In other words, make your evac plans now because you will be on your own.
     
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  11. Buck Turgidson

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    I hope you and yours in the Western parts are ok.
     
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  12. ROCKSS

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    This has to be one of the most ridiculous cuts so far, so everyone will be reactive and not proactive? I am racking my brain why any sane human being thinks this is bad, what a bunch of spineless yes men/women in congress...........maga will cheer UNTIL they are affected and then will give the old, why is this happening to me, I was for the orange man, nothing bad should happen to me
     
  13. rimrocker

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    Drought now, hurricanes coming. This is fine.

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  14. Air Langhi

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    This is what the people voted for right?
     
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  15. rimrocker

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    I guess enough farmers and business types complained because funding has been restored for the time being. The regional climate center web sites and data are starting to reappear. However, it's still cut in the Republican budget proposal.
     
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