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Hurricane Season Predictions by the "Experts" - Could be 'Extreme'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Mar 10, 2010.

  1. Depressio

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    I'll also note he called you, a singular person, a liar. You called all Democrats crybabies.
     
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  3. DonnyMost

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    Mojo: Wild, unfounded claim about something
    Everybody else: Prove it
    Mojo: Some nonsensical response about name calling usually accompanied by a gif that has nothing to do with anything
    Everybody else: :confused:
     
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  4. rhadamanthus

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    Succinct.
     
  5. MojoMan

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    There is a difference between criticizing someones words or actions, and attacking them personally.

    To say a statement is not true is fine, if you believe that. To call someone a liar is something else again entirely. Attack the positions, not the person. Deal with the issues, not the individual. These are commonly known maxims that people who are considerate, well mannered, intelligent and civil are generally familiar with. Is it really possible that most of the people who routinely engage in this kind of personally hostile, name-calling behavior here on this board are completely unlearned in these basic principles? Honestly, that is difficult for me to believe. Most of you did have mothers or some sort of parental oversight as children, didn't you?

    GR's behavior in this thread has been similar to that of a crying baby, but I did not call him a crying baby. His petulant behavior is the object of my criticism. It serves no purpose that I have to personally attack him as an individual. And I have not done so.

    Anyone responding to one of my posts with name-calling and personal attacks should not expect a response from me. I will always strive to avoid lowering myself to the level of of that kind of conduct. If I ever deviate from that, I am confident in advance that will be a mistake that I will later to regret. That is not the kind of behavior that I want to be engaging in.

    If you want to attack the content of something I said in a post, by all means, that is fair game. Have at it. But attacking another poster personally should be off limits. If that is not a standard of moderation here in this forum, then this forum is effectively unmoderated for all practical purposes.
     
  6. Depressio

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    "You're a liar."

    "You're a crybaby."

    I dunno, same level of attack to me. If I called you a crybaby for whining about personal attacks, would that be a personal attack?
     
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    Did you or did you not make a completely untrue statement?
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    someone who steals=thief
    someone who lies=liar
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    On the topic this thread has morphed into, that of lying and debate decorum, I will not be lectured by someone who regularly puts forth arguments totally devoid of factual basis. I am not a Democrat and as such, I don't suffer from their inability to call out people spreading demonstrably false information. If I were Obama, I would have said that your statement was "factually not true" and tried to find common ground with you. Fortunately, I am a free thinking independant who is willing and able to call you out for the intellectually dishonest statements you regularly make.

    If you want to continue to make statements without basis in fact, you will continue to be called a liar. The moderators haven't said or done anything to me because they know you are lying just as well as everyone else does. For God's sake, your most compelling argument on the topic of global warming is a fictional picture of what the Earth might have looked like 12,000 years ago. If that isn't the most intellectually dishonest argument on that topic, then the original post in this thread is.

    If you want to have a reasoned discussion based on facts and available evidence, I'm your huckleberry. I would love to have a logical discussion with you on any topic at all. I will be happy to refrain from even the hint of name calling so long as you refrain from saying things that are simply not true. I rather suspect you will ignore this post altogether since you don't have anything based on logic, reason, fact, or available evidence, but (glutton for punishment that I am) I am willing to give you yet ANOTHER chance for such a discussion.

    However, if you post lies, you know what my response will be.
     
  10. MojoMan

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    I did not call him a crybaby. I just posted a picture, which left everyone to make of that what they wanted. My intention was to infer that his comments were hysterical, whiny and over the top, much like the wailings of the youngster in the photo.

    There is a difference between saying to someone 1) "you are a crybaby" and 2) "your post comes across as rather hysterical, whiny and over the top." The first statement is not appropriate. The second statement is completely fair game.

    If you want to respond to my posts addressing the issue of personal attacks with something like the second statement, that is perfectly fine, although I will disagree. If you respond by saying "you are a crybaby," do not be surprised if I respond back by drawing attention to your tendency towards engaging in personal attacks and name-calling.

    The banning of personal attacks and name-calling has increasingly become a normal standard for moderating message board behavior around the internet. It has been widely recognized by quality-minded moderators across the web that if you can quash the personal attacks and name calling on your board, most of your other message board moderation issues will be small beer after this one problem area gets resolved. In fact this practice has spread sufficiently far and wide that I am not willing to entertain the idea that you guys are as generally unfamiliar with this now well-developed trend as you currently seem to be suggesting.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    [​IMG]

    (Disclaimer: I did not call you a jackass, I just posted a picture, which left everyone to make of that what they wanted)
     
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  12. GladiatoRowdy

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    Please note that the image behind the spoiler tag does not refer to anyone in particular. I just found it humorous and thought I would share...

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  13. JuanValdez

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    People, and especially businesses, rely on hurricane forecasts for more than political pissing matches about global warming. I don't think the "so-called hurricane experts" have an incentive to over-estimate. Their incentives lie in being as accurate and reliable as possible. Exxon doesn't care about AGW, they want to know about the danger to their rigs. Agribusiness wants to know about the danger to their crops. Plenty of folks outside of MSM are looking at the predictions of meteorologists, have lots of money riding on them, and are certainly measuring and remembering how accurate those guys were. The media may have an incentive to play up extreme forecasts, but not the experts.
     
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    this


    only the extremely partisan would assume that everyone else is partisan.
    Weather forecasters who constantly and purposefully miss the mark for political purposes would soon find themselves without a job.
     
  15. MojoMan

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    See, now that was funny. I do not agree, but I did laugh when I saw the picture. Thanks for the amusing post. And you managed to somewhat subtly convey your lack of agreement with me at the same time.

    Well done. Repped.
     

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