Exactly. When I saw this storm coming, I wondered if the Feds would be ready. hah. Four Navy ships left Virginia YESTERDAY and won't arrive until this weekend. There's some great preparation for ya.
Apparently you'd better elect a Boy Scout as mayor because doesn't look like you can rely on anyone else to send much help while people die after the storm
Here is a quote from CNN anchor Jack Cafferty that someone transcribed: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/1/155317/6225 "The thing that's most glaring in all of this is that the conditions continue to deteriorate for people who are victims and the efforts to do something about it don't seem to be anywhere in sight. [...] The questions that we ask in The Situation Room every day are posted on the website two or three hours before we go on the air and people who read the website often begin to respond to the questions before the show actually starts. The question for this hour is whether the government is doing a good job in handling the situation. I gotta tell you something, we got five or six hundred letters before the show actually went on the air, and no one - no one - is saying the government is doing a good job in handling one of the most atrocious and embarrassing and far-reaching and calamatous things that has come along in this country in my lifetime. I'm 62. I remember the riots in Watts, I remember the earthquake in San Francisco, I remember a lot of things. I have never, ever, seen anything as bungled and as poorly handled as this situation in New Orleans. Where the hell is the water for these people? Why can't sandwiches be dropped to those people in the Superdome. What is going on? This is Thursday! This storm happened 5 days ago. This is a disgrace. And don't think the world isn't watching. This is the government that the taxpayers are paying for, and it's fallen right flat on its face as far as I can see, in the way it's handled this thing. We're going to talk about something else before the show's over, too. And that's the big elephant in the room. The race and economic class of most of the victims, which the media hasn't discussed much at all, but we will a bit later."
Somebody must be held accountable for this situation, right? Or will it become a liberal versus conservative crap fest of political garbage? I don't care who helps - someone needs to actually do something!
In trying to understand why people are going so crazy I am wondering if you have a couple of thousand crack addicts running around going nuts because their supply has been interrupted.
Didn't they tell people to go to the Superdome/Convention Center? Why would they tell people to go there and then leave them high and dry? This doesn't make sense, what the hell is going on over there? This reminds me of when the police were told to stand down on the first day of the LA riots. Then all hell broke loose. Are the rescue workers being told to stand down because people are shooting at them? I've been away from TV/radio all day. What is the "official" explanation as to why no one is helping?
PLEASE people, do NOT turn this into a political thread. futants, it would probably be best if you deleted that post, or edited it. It is already posted in the D&D, and we do not need the inevitable fighting that would come as a result of it being in this thread.
Yes, PLEASE don't et this moved to D&D, there are a couple of us who ummmmm, no longer are "able" to access D&D, lol!
Just to echo SirCharlesFan... Do NOT turn this into a political debate. That that to D&D. This thread is not to debate the political ramifications or blame one group or another based on some poltical or other affiliation. Keep it civil.
I just talked to my buddy's wife Lisa, who works at Charity. Here are some lovely snippets from the last two days: 1. There were _several_ rape victims brought in from the Superdome. 2. Her boss walked out to his car on the 4th floor of the parking garage to get some gum and discovered that ALL of the cars in the hospital parking lot had been looted. 3. Rioting on I-10 staging area where the East NO people were placed after being rescued 4. Some looting in Baton Rouge....WTF????
whats to debate? that CNN stated the obvious? all i did was enlarge the text, I'm not the one to say it. but i am glad CNN brought it up. why is no one talking about the situation?? DoD- widespread opinion says they are losing control of the situation. you can TALK about all the troops all day long. but where are they? "New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin issued "a desperate SOS" for the thousands of people stranded in and around the city's convention center with no food or water and fading hope."
Agricultural losses potentially $1 Billion Agriculture $1 billion in ag losses possible because of Katrina By ANNE FITZGERALD REGISTER STAFF WRITER September 1, 2005 Lost agricultural export sales, delayed shipping and higher fuel and fertilizer costs could cause more than $1 billion in losses in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, agricultural economists and market analysts said today. Losses are hard to estimate because so little is known about conditions at New Orleans-area ports, but the situation is causing a growing bottleneck on waterways reaching from Louisiana to the heart of the U.S. Corn Belt. Terminal elevators owned by major grain companies forced to close by Hurricane Katrina are expected to remain closed for at least two to four weeks. Meanwhile, Mississippi River terminals upstream have halted barge shipments to New Orleans, and some have slowed grain purchases. "This comes right at harvest-time," said Terry Francl, senior economist at the American Farm Bureau Federation in Washington, D.C. About two-thirds of the corn and soybeans exported by the United States are shipped out of the gulf, but for now that traffic has been halted. In addition, fuel, fertilizer and other agricultural products cannot be shipped up the river. Francl estimates that the loss of export traffic, combined with expected increases in the prices farmers will have to pay for fuel and fertilizer, will mean more than $1 billion in losses to the U.S. farm sector. If closures extend beyond two to four weeks, those losses will grow, he said. In addition, crop farmers in the Deep South have incurred an estimated $1 billion in losses from storm-related damage, he said.
You can talk about it all you like, just don't do it in this thread. Let's stick to news and updates on the situation. Keep the debates over race, class, politics, etc. for the D&D.
They just showed a woman outside the Convention Center among the thousands there that said they have had no food at all. Then they showed a woman with a young baby ... just a little younger than my youngest, who was not waking up normally because of the heat.
gotcha, i just thought that quote was important. there is so much info right now, i am not looking into threads to start debates. i AM, however getting frustrated with the way the relief effort is panning out, and I know the refugees are as well. crazy, thats what our country's reality is now. we have a major American town that has been abandoned, and over 1 million American refugees now live in our country with no hope, no family, nowhere to go...
