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Hurricane Katrina

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    CATASTROPHIC
    STORM SURGE SWAMPS 9TH WARD, ST. BERNARD
    LAKEVIEW LEVEE BREACH THREATENS TO INUNDATE CITY
    By Doug MacCash
    and James O.Byrne
    Staff writers



    A large section of the vital 17th Street Canal levee, where it connects to the brand new .hurricane proof. Old Hammond Highway bridge, gave way late Monday morning in Bucktown after Katrina's fiercest winds were well north. The breach sent a churning sea of water from Lake Pontchartrain coursing across Lakeview and into Mid-City, Carrollton, Gentilly, City Park and neighborhoods farther south and east.


    As night fell on a devastated region, the water was still rising in the city, and nobody was willing to predict when it would stop. After the destruction already apparent in the wake of Katrina, the American Red Cross was mobilizing for what regional officials were calling the largest recovery operation in the organization's history.


    Police officers, firefighters and private citizens, hampered by a lack of even rudimentary communication capabilities, continued a desperate and impromptu boat-borne rescue operation across Lakeview well after dark. Coast Guard helicopters with searchlights criss-crossed the skies. Officers working on the scene said virtually every home and business between the 17th Street Canal and the Marconi Canal, and between Robert E. Lee Boulevard and City Park Avenue, had water in it. Nobody had confirmed any fatalities as a result of the levee breach, but they conceded that hundreds of homes had not been checked.


    As the sun set over a still-roiling Lake Pontchartrain, the smoldering ruins of the Southern Yacht Club were still burning, and smoke streamed out over the lake. Nobody knew the cause of the fire because nobody could get anywhere near it to find out what happened.


    Dozens of residents evacuated to the dry land of the Filmore Street bridge over the Marconi Canal were stranded between the flooded neighborhood on their right, and the flooded City Park on their left, hours after they had been plucked from rooftops or second-story windows.


    Firefighters who saved them tried to request an RTA bus to come for the refugees, but realized was no working communications to do so. Ed Gruber, who lives in the 6300 block of Canal Boulevard, said he became desperate when the rising water chased him, his wife, Helen, and their neighbor Mildred K. Harrison to the second floor of their home.


    When Gruber saw a boat pass by, he flagged it down with a light, and the three of them escaped from a second- story window.


    On the lakefront, pleasure boats were stacked on top of each other like cordwood in the municipal marina and yacht harbor. The Robert E. Lee shopping center was under 7 feet of water. Plantation Coffeehouse on Canal Boulevard was the same. Hynes Elementary School had 8 feet of water inside. Indeed, the entire business district along Harrison Avenue had water to the rooflines in many places. Joshua Bruce, 19, was watching the tide rise from his home on Pontalba Street when he heard a woman crying for help. The woman had apparently tried to wade the surging waters on Canal Boulevard when she was swept beneath the railroad trestle just south of Interstate 610. Bruce said he plunged into the water to pull her to safety. He and friends Gregory Sontag and Joey LaFrance found dry clothes for the woman and she went on her way in search of a second-story refuge downtown.


    The effect of the breach was instantly devastating to residents who had survived the fiercest of Katrina's winds and storm surge intact, only to be taken by surprise by the sudden deluge. And it added a vast swath of central New Orleans to those already flooded in eastern New Orleans, the Lower 9th Ward and St. Bernard and Plaquemines parishes.


    Beginning at midday, Lakeview residents watched in horror as the water began to rise, pushed through the levee breach by still-strong residual winds from Katrina. They struggled to elevate furniture and eventually found themselves forced to the refuge of second floors just when most in the neighborhood thought they had been spared.


    "It would have been fine," refugee Pat O.Brien said. "The eye passed over." But his relief was short-lived. "It's like what you see on TV and never thought would happen to us. We lost everything: cars, art, furniture, everything."


    Scott Radish, his wife Kyle and neighbor Brandon Gioe stood forlornly on their Mound Street porch, where they had ridden out Katrina, only to face a second, more insidious

    threat. "The hurricane was scary," Scott said. "All the tree branches fell, but the building stood. I thought I was doing good. Then I noticed my Jeep was under water."

    The water had risen knee-deep during the storm, but despite the clearing skies, it had continued to rise one brick every 20 minutes, according to Kyle Scott, continuing its

    ascent well into the night.


    "We were good until the canal busted," Sontag said. "First there was water on the street, then the sidewalk, then water in the house." Officials of the Army Corps of

    Engineers have contingencies for levee breaches such as the one that happened Monday, but it will take time and effort to get the heavy equipment into place to make the repair. Breach repair is part of the corps' planning for recovery from catastrophic storms, but nobody Monday was able to say how long it would take to plug the hole, or how much water would get through it before that happened.


    In Lakeview, the scene was surreal. A woman yelled to reporters from a rooftop, asking them to call her father and tell him she was OK, although fleeing to the roof of a two-story home hardly seemed to qualify.


    About 5 p.m., almost as if on cue, the battery power of all the house alarms in the neighborhood seemed to reach a critical level, and they all went off, making it sound as if the area was under an air-raid warning. Two men surviving on generator power in the Lake Terrace neighborhood near the Lake Pontchartrain levee still had a dry house, but they were watching the rising water in the yard nervously. They were planning to head out to retrieve a vast stash of beer, champagne and hard liquor they found washed onto the levee. As night fell, the sirens of house alarms finally fell silent, and the air filled with a different, deafening and unfamiliar sound: the extraordinary din of thousands of croaking frogs.


    Still wondering if he would spend the night on the Filmore Street bridge over the Marconi Canal, Gruber tried to be philosophical.


    "I never thought I would see any devastation like this, and I've lived here more than 30 years," Gruber said. "But at least we have our lives.

    And that's something."


    Staff writer Mark Schleifstein contributed to this report.
     
  4. firecat

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    I spent all day yesterday watching this hurricane hit New Orleans and there for a while it looked like the damage would be minimal compared to what was being forecast. Now, it's starting to look about as bad as they were expecting even though it helped that the storm veered off to the east a little bit.

    Anyway, I didn't know how much following something like this would have a personal effect on me since I don't really know anyone that was directly affected, but I found myself thinking about those people in NO and Miss. a lot last night while I was at work. I'm a piano player/singer at Pat O'briens in San Antonio, which is a New Orleans themed bar that is supposed to be like the one in the French Quarter. That already had got me unconsciously concerned about what kind of things were happening over there that can't be covered by the news yet.

    Then I start getting requests for stuff like Jumbalaya and House of the Rising Sun. But one request really got me thinking about it and it wasn't until I started singing it that I saw the similarities because I had never given that much thought to the lyrics.

    Bad Moon Rising

    I see a bad moon arising.
    I see trouble on the way.
    I see earthquakes and lightnin'.
    I see bad times today.

    CHORUS:
    Don't go around tonight,
    Well, it's bound to take your life,
    There's a bad moon on the rise.

    I hear hurricanes ablowing.
    I know the end is coming soon.
    I fear rivers over flowing.
    I hear the voice of rage and ruin.

    Don't go around tonight,
    Well, it's bound to take your life,
    There's a bad moon on the rise.

    Hope you got your things together.
    Hope you are quite prepared to die.
    Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
    One eye is taken for an eye.

    Don't go around tonight,
    Well, it's bound to take your life,
    There's a bad moon on the rise.

    Don't go around tonight,
    Well, it's bound to take your life,
    There's a bad moon on the rise.



    There weren't many people there at the bar last night while I was playing, so I'm sure that I was the only one that saw anything in the song. It was just strange for me to have a reaction like that when normally I don't have a care in the world when I'm on stage. Of course I'm sure that this is only interesting to me. :)
     
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    I feel bad for all of those people who lost loved ones and homes. I would not feel sorry if a reporter died as a result of standing in the wind and rain and telling people to stay indoors. They keep on showing about 5 or 6 reporters on headline news reporting in that stuff.
     
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    i am keeping in touch with my relatives who have evacuated N.O., they are frustrated because they don't have specific info regarding their neighborhoods, whether they have houses or not... my cousins work at Charity and Tulane, and those are the two hospitals that might be evacuated. my uncle has a boat at the Southern Yacht Club- its burning down right now(the Yacht Club)- who knows where his boat may be....

    but everyone is in Houston or Jackson, no one is allowed back in. so they are going to N.O. based websites to try to get info, CNN is too broad regarding what the residents of N.O. should do...

    they are saying they cant come back for weeks!!
     
  8. Lil Pun

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    Was the Galveston storm that killed thousands not a Category 5?
     
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    I'm a bit late to the thread and am not sure if these have been posted but here's some links and info

    http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
    This guy has been blogging from downtown NOLA, he's up in a building in downtown NOLA with a bunch of servers for an ISP he works for

    http://sigmund.biz/kat/
    Photos from the guy in the above link!

    http://neworleans.metblogs.com/
    New Orleans Metroblogs, folks are reporting in here too

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/katrina/clusters/
    Flickr photo website - this is a search for items tagged with 'katrina'
     
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    good question:

    http://www.gthcenter.org/exhibits/storms/1900/victims/stormfaq.htm

    # 8 How strong were the winds?

    Wind speeds measured as high as 100 mph before the wind gauge blew away. Isaac Cline, chief local forecaster, in his report to the U.S. Weather Service, reported estimated winds up to 120 mph which is considered the accepted wind speed. A copy of his report to the United States Weather Bureau as it appears in our Subject File is found here in the Cline report.

    This hurricane could be classified as a Category 3 or 4 hurricane by today's standards. According to the National Weather Service web site for storm classifications, the 1900 Storm wind speed places it as a Category 3. However, the storm surge, being 15 feet, places it as a Category 4. Check out the National Weather Service chart for a guide.
     
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    Near downtown NOLA.
     
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    that looks a lot like houston after allison. fortunately, we were spared the winds.
     
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    A buddy of mine is a news reporter and I was talking to him about that. I asked him if it is possible for his station to ask him to go to the storm and he said that they could. He said he wouldn't really want to do it though. Apparently there are some reporters that want to take assignments like that and find that hardcore kind of niche, but I think that there are others that do it just because they have to.

    In some of the reports that I've watched it seems like you can tell the difference between the reporters that seem to be getting a thrill from the storm and the ones that are just out there and very uncomfortable.
     
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    report of a man jumping from the Superdome to his death...

    :(
     
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    did he jump from a terrace?
     
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    Anyone see this yet? :eek:
     
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    where did you get that??!!
     
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    That's in Alabama.
     
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    Also, in Houston, the water could eventually drain off.

    In NO it has no place to drain...it will have to be pumped.
     

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