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Hunter Biden Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

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  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    Ay.... Let's make it blatantly obvious that any investigation over this matter would be nothing more than a political witch hunt.

    Dumb photo op if you want to portray any investigation into this as non-partisan. Imagine Obama doing this. You can't because he ain't a immature idiot.
     
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    I think Biden will have bigger fish to fry. I think Wray will survive the transition. It'll also be a good way of showing how he does not view the Justice Department as a political tool like Republicans do.
     
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    It WaS a PeRfEcT pHoNe CaLl
     
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    Law professor humor is the best...

     
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    Didn't you admit that you don't care if it's true? I guess that you're in the mud too.
     
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    Perhaps. But since it isn't actually true that there was any wrongdoing on the Biden's part, it doesn't matter.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    I don't care about this story, but yes, I think the Dems should get right down in the mud too and hit back.....100%.

    DD
     
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    We can also talk about trump tower deal in Turkey.
     
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    Hunter Biden is kind of sexy, objectively speaking. So much sexier than Don Jr and Eric.
     
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    @basso no one believes this story is true except desperate people like you.
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/media/fox-news-unmasking-obamagate/index.html

    Fox News portrayed it as one of the biggest scandals in American history. Then it fell apart
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    Updated 5:40 PM ET, Wed October 14, 2020

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    Trump and right-wing media distract from bad virus news with alternate reality
    That was back in May. This week, however, the conspiracy theory collapsed when The Washington Post reported that a Justice Department investigation into the supposed scandal quietly ended with no charges.
    The narrative pushed by Fox News was centered on the routine intelligence practice of "unmasking." A document declassified in May by then-acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell, who has been criticized by Democrats and career intelligence officials as the most overtly political person to serve in the position, revealed that several Obama administration officials had "unmasked" a US citizen mentioned in intelligence reports.

    Information about Americans is anonymized in US intelligence reports for privacy reasons. But there are instances when US officials who read these reports need to see the full picture. To make that happen, they need to provide a justification to the intelligence agency that produced the report. If the agency grants that request, the information is "unmasked," and the name is revealed.
    The person in the intelligence reports ended up being Michael Flynn, who served as President Donald Trump's national security advisor before being fired for lying to Vice President Mike Pence about his contacts with Russia. The Obama officials who requested the "unmasking" of the US citizen, however, wouldn't have known Flynn's identity until after he had been "unmasked."
    During the transition, Flynn's name would've appeared in intelligence reports because of his highly irregular contacts with foreign officials, including phone calls with the Russian ambassador and a meeting with a delegation from the United Arab Emirates. Obama-era national security officials have said they "unmasked" Flynn while trying to decipher these unorthodox diplomatic dealings.
    While the procedure of "unmasking" is commonplace in national security matters, happening thousands of times each year, right-wing media portrayed the act as nefarious. The essence of the narrative they pushed was that President Barack Obama and members of his administration, including then-Vice President Joe Biden, participated in a "deep state" plot to improperly use the levers of government to win the 2016 election. The supposed scandal was colloquially referred to by its proponents as "OBAMAGATE."

    Attorney General William Barr eventually commissioned a federal prosecutor to look into the matter. The Post reported on Tuesday that the inquiry ended without finding substantive wrongdoing and that the probe's findings would likely disappoint conservatives who believed "unmasking" was tied to a political conspiracy against Trump.
    News that Trump's Justice Department had concluded without charges being filed landed with a thud on Fox News. Martha MacCallum covered it on her Tuesday night show, but a search of transcripts did not turn up any other instances in which Fox covered it on air. The story was briefly featured on Fox News' homepage before being removed Wednesday afternoon. Even when it was featured on the network's website, it was not given the same play as the initial unmasking stories were in May.
    The episode marks yet another instance in which Fox News and its hosts have dishonestly hyped an innocuous national security procedure into a supposed scandal, only to later watch it quietly fall apart before moving on to feed something else to their audience.
    A Fox News spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment Wednesday.
    It's difficult to overstate how much Fox News promoted the unmasking story in May, never mind promoting it as an insidious plot against Trump.
    As the coronavirus death toll neared 100,000 people in the US, Fox News practically dumped coverage of the disease to focus on "OBAMAGATE." After Grenell declassified the related documents in May, mentions of key words related to the supposed scandal spiked on the conservative network as mentions of words related to the coronavirus dropped.

    And it wasn't just pro-Trump propagandists on Fox News, such as Hannity and Ingraham, who went all in on the story. Fox News anchors such as Bret Baier, who the network promotes as covering the news in a no-nonsense "straight news" way, also elevated the story on their programs.
    Baier, for instance, hosted the right-wing commentator Mollie Hemingway to discuss the supposed scandal without challenging her assertions, despite them being out of lockstep with what the national security community was saying.
    The topic was featured in countless other news segments on the network in which pundits would chew over the declassified documents.
     
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    I'm with you on this. Even if the NYPost reporting was true, how the **** is that going to convert someone like me or you who think the president purposefully tries to divide the country?

    Joe Biden meet someone at Burisma... **** I guess I should forgive Trump for making up stories of thousands upon thousands of Muslims celebrating 9/11 in Jersey City.
     
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    Which may or may not be true, Even without a transparent investigation it's pretty clear that Hunter was peddling influence and that Joe was aware of more than he claimed he was. If my son was a drug addict and he suddenly got a job making a **** load of money, I'd be checking in to where the source of that income was. Joe exercised poor judgement not recusing himself of all things Ukraine with his son being involved with a shady company there.
     
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    Not when looking at the timeline. The investigation was for things that happened before Hunter was even working there. And at the time when Joe Biden pressured for Shokin's dismissal, Burisma was no longer under investigation.

    With those being understood the whole conspiracy angle goes out the window.
     
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    what a joke
     
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    Agreed. Not only are the accusations false, it's just an ineffective strategy.
     
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  20. CometsWin

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    Biden lied, two hundred thousand died. Wait... what?
     
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