Hunter Biden Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

I have no idea why this made me chuckle so much.

Maybe because it is so true.

If a crack pipe comes out, there will be a record scratch always.

 

Who is saying this?

So now we know his father is definitely the Big Guy, or is that speculation as well?

 

Tony Bobulinski (his alleged business partner) for one.

 

LOL, this is terrible even for you.

If you are not sure and don't even know if this is new, why are you posting as if it is fact?

So now we got a supposedly and alleged.

What's the trifecta?

 

This was from 2020 and he said he was handing over everything during his meeting with Congress a few days after that..........and nothing happened........and Trump was Prez, if he had something Trump would have used it. Come on man...........Like I've said, if he did something send his ass to jail but so far all we get are sound bites and no proof........kind of like the Trump GOP playbook

 

I suspect what I read (and sorry, can't remember where I read it) was referring to this previously discredited NY Post article about the previously non-existent Hunter Biden laptop that was allegedly planted by the Russkies if it in fact it were to exist:

Hunter Biden engaged in some daddy pay care: Devine
https://nypost.com/2021/07/04/hunter-biden-engaged-in-some-daddy-pay-care-devine/

That article was published on July 4, 2021, so long before the NYTimes or Washington Post started taking the story seriously.

your description here matches the description provided in the aforementioned and previously discredited NY Post article that now appears you and everyone else is accepting as basically truthful. I also agree with you in everything you say about family members covering expenses for one another etc etc etc, and is one reason why I was careful to point out earlier that I was not qualified to speak or speculate on questions of legal/nonlegal, etc.

I can't speak to this because other than the media angle (NY Post vs NYT and WaPo) I just really haven't followed the story. I'm more interested in the media story than the minutia of Hunter Biden's corruption. I think the fact that the NYTimes and WaPo apparently chose to BURY the story rather than investigate it--and enlisted the 50 spies and spooks from the U.S. intelligence services (one of whom btw happens to actually be a friend of mine, and no, I have not yet summoned up the courage to ask him about this) to support their burying of the story-- ALL of that is disgraceful.

 

Even you keep on saying that all of this is allegations and that there is no specific proof. If there isn't anything that is specifically damning why should the NYT, WaPO or any other news services report on it? You're saying it's disgraceful they buried a story that even you are saying there might not be anything there.

 

they reported it was fake news and a Russian conspiracy. that's disgraceful.

 

Has part of it does appear to be true, that the laptop is genuine and that several emails are. I have still have yet to hear though whether or not that the data wasn't compromised in some way. For that matter as others have noted even though seemingly many including members of Congress have a copy of the hard drive we've yet to see most of the data on that drive released publicly.

 

I remember they said it was unsubstantiated. Link to WSJ, NYT, or Wash Post saying it was fake news and a Russian conspiracy?

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/all-th...ork-post-new-york-times-joe-biden-11647637814

Hunter Biden’s Laptop Is Finally News Fit to Print
The press that ignored the story in 2020 admits that it’s real.
By The Editorial Board
March 18, 2022 6:41 pm ET

Talk about burying the lead—for 17 months. The New York Times has finally acknowledged that Hunter Biden’s business dealings are legitimate news. Implicit apology accepted.

The Times waddled in this week with a story on the “tax affairs” of the President’s son, including this gem in the 24th paragraph: “Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.”

You don’t say. This admission comes six months after a Politico writer published a book that also confirmed that the laptop emails were authentic. But the original scoop belonged to the New York Post, which broke its laptop story in October 2020—only to meet a media wall of denial and distortion.

Rather than attempt to confirm the emails, nearly all of the media at the time ignored the story or “fact-checked” it as false. This in-kind contribution to candidate Joe Biden was all the more egregious given other evidence supporting the Post’s scoop. Neither Hunter Biden nor the Biden campaign denied that the laptop was Hunter’s. And Hunter’s former business partner, Tony Bobulinski, went public with documents backing up some of the laptop’s contents.

The herd of media conformists also echoed the speculation of obviously partisan “intelligence officials.” Some 50 of these officials—headlined by former Obama spooks James Clapper and John Brennan —circulated a statement peddling the Russian “disinformation” line—even as they admitted they had no evidence.

This result was a blackout of the Hunter news, except in a few places, including these pages.Twitter blocked the Post’s account for nearly two weeks, and Facebook used algorithms to quash the story. This deprived voters of information they might have wanted to know before Election Day.

There’s more for our reborn media sleuths to investigate. Mr. Bobulinski provided these pages with documents showing Hunter was looking to use the Biden name to profit from a business deal with a Shanghai-based company with ties to the Chinese government.

One May 2017 “expectations” email from Hunter associate James Gilliar shows Hunter receiving 20% of the equity in the venture, with another “10 held by H for the big guy.” Mr. Bobulinski says the “big guy” is Joe Biden. To this day the Bidens have not had to explain their business arrangement.

The emails make clear that Hunter was cashing in on the Biden name, including as a board member of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company. That influence-peddling was a potential political liability for Mr. Biden, which was why the facts deserved an airing before the election. They are still relevant, especially with U.S.-China relations so fraught.

The Times won a Pulitzer prize for pushing the Russia collusion narrative, which proved to be much ado about nothing. The New York Post deserves a Pulitzer, but it will probably have to settle for well-earned vindication.

Appeared in the March 19, 2022, print edition as 'All the News That’s Finally Fit to Print.'
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citing this earlier editorial that appeared on October 15, 2020--less than three weeks before the Presidential election.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-hunter-biden-business-11602803121?mod=article_inline

The Hunter Biden Business
Joe’s son was trading on his father’s name and position to cash in.
By The Editorial Board
Oct. 15, 2020 7:05 pm ET

Count Sen. Ron Johnson among those not surprised that the press is ignoring a New York Post report about emails said to be from Hunter Biden’s laptop that suggest he introduced his father the Vice President to a representative of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings. Or that Twitter and Facebook would run interference for the Bidens by banishing the Post dispatch from their platforms.

Something similar happened last month when Mr. Johnson’s Homeland Security Committee and Chuck Grassley’s Finance Committee dropped a joint report on Hunter Biden’s financial dealings overseas. The committees tracked the heartburn the younger Mr. Biden’s involvement with Burisma caused the Obama Administration and dug up intriguing tidbits—such as a $3.5 million wire transfer from a Russian billionaire who had been married to the former mayor of Moscow.

Most news accounts dismissed the Senate findings as offering no proof that either Biden did anything criminal. What a low bar. The report mentions, for example, a $100,000 spending spree for Hunter Biden, James Biden (the Vice President’s brother) and Sara Biden (the Vice President’s sister-in-law) financed by Gongwen Dong, a Chinese businessman with ties to China’s largest private oil and gas company.

Hunter Biden’s position on the Burisma board was concerning enough within the Obama Administration that two U.S. officials, George Kent and Amos Hochstein, complained about it. Mr. Kent had been Acting Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv. In 2016 he emailed colleagues that “the presence of Hunter Biden on the Burisma board was very awkward for all U.S. officials pushing an anticorruption agenda in Ukraine.” At the least, the Senate report notes, Mr. Biden’s financial dealings raised “criminal financial, counterintelligence and extortion concerns.”

There’s also whether it affected U.S. policy. In a September 2015 speech in Odessa, U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt specifically named Mykola Zlochevsky, a former Ukraine official who is also owner of Burisma Holdings, as involved in Ukraine’s corruption. But three months later, Joe Biden advisers told him to avoid mentioning Zlochevsky in a speech. The question is whether his son’s presence on Mr. Zlochevsky’s board affected that decision.

The Biden campaign says there was no meeting with the Ukrainian in question on Joe Biden’s official schedule. That doesn’t mean much: The January 2017 Oval Office meeting with Barack Obama and James Comey wasn’t on his official schedule either.

Even so, the information unearthed by the committee suggests that Mr. Biden knew much more about his son’s involvement with Burisma than what he let on. Though he says he never discussed Hunter’s overseas business deals with his son, he certainly discussed them with Mr. Hochstein, who came to the Vice President in October 2015 with his concerns. At best Joe Biden had a see-nothing-wrong approach to his son; less generously, it was a wink and a nod of tacit approval.

The Senate report further suggests that John Kerry, who served as Secretary of State at the time and whose stepson Chris Heinz was a business partner of Hunter Biden’s, was also not truthful when he said he knew nothing about it.

Assuming the emails turned up by the New York Post are real, they provide significant detail about Hunter Biden’s way of doing business. Even if it wasn’t illegal, it was a classic example of Beltway influence-peddling for profit off his father’s name and position.

This is a legitimate story with important information for voters who are being asked to trust Joe Biden for a return to normalcy. We doubt this is the kind of Washington self-interest and dishonesty as usual that most Americans have in mind.


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That cinches it... Alex Jones says the West controls Ukraine and laundered money through them. That must mean Trump was part of that as well since that didn't just start 2 months after Biden took office.

 

Miranda Devine, who actually wrote the book on the laptop

https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/media-avoided-the-ties-between-joe-biden-and-hunters-laptop/

The media avoided the ties between Joe Biden and Hunter’s laptop
By Miranda Devine
March 30, 2022 10:20pm Updated

Wonders never cease. First the New York Times. Then CNN. Now the Washington Post has caught up with the Hunter Biden laptop story — only 18 months after the New York Post broke the scandal, and too late for the 2020 election.

But now, after our story was censored by Big Tech and dismissed as “Russian disinformation” by Democratic prevaricator Adam Schiff, and 51 former spooks led by former CIA Director John Brennan, apparently it’s safe to admit the laptop is real and the emails we published can be easily authenticated.

Of course, they all avoid the inevitable conclusion to be drawn from evidence contained on the laptop that the president’s drug-addled son Hunter abandoned at a MacBook repair shop in Delaware in April 2019: that Joe Biden, when he was vice president, was aware of, and intimately involved in, a corrupt, multimillion-dollar, international influence-peddling scheme run by Hunter, and Joe’s brother Jim Biden, in the countries for which Joe was point man in the Obama administration, such as Russia, Ukraine and China.

Hunter’s laptop is a large piece of the jigsaw puzzle that leads to such a shocking conclusion.

But despite acknowledging that the material on the laptop showed that Hunter was “trading on his father’s name to make a lot of money,” as CNN White House correspondent John Harwood put it, both the Washington Post and CNN were at pains to absolve Joe Biden of any involvement in the scheme.

“There is zero evidence that Vice President Biden, or President Biden, has done anything wrong in connection with what Hunter Biden has done,” Harwood said.

The Washington Post declared it “did not find evidence that Joe Biden personally benefited from or knew details about the transactions with [Chinese energy company] CEFC, which took place after he had left the vice presidency and before he announced his intentions to run for the White House in 2020."

A New York Times piece earlier this month that also belatedly acknowledged that the veracity of the laptop — in the 24th paragraph — did not explicitly exonerate the president but simply rehearsed the legal defenses that Hunter could mount if he is indicted by the Delaware grand jury investigating him over alleged tax evasion, money laundering and violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

No doubt these august media organs that treated our story with sneering disregard for a year and a half have their reasons for jumping on board. For one thing, their original goal of removing President Donald Trump from office was achieved long ago, and Joe Biden is now so unpopular that his Praetorian Guard is melting away and reporting on his family is less hazardous to Beltway dinner party invitations.

For another thing, they can’t have their audiences blindsided when the US attorney in Delaware completes his investigation of Hunter. God forbid that their readers and viewers wake up to the fact they have been misled and kept in the dark by their media outlets of choice.

Leaving out facts
But instead of providing its readers with the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, the Washington Post curiously left out crucial facts in two detailed stories about the laptop on Tuesday that totaled a hefty near 7,000 words.

The main story was titled “Inside Hunter Biden’s multimillion-dollar deals with a Chinese energy company: A Washington Post review confirms key details and offers new documentation of Biden family interactions with Chinese executives.”

It goes into detail about Hunter Biden’s business dealings with the state-controlled Chinese energy conglomerate CEFC — which it doesn’t mention was the capitalist arm of China’s “Belt and Road Initiative,” an imperialist pet project of President Xi Jinping that aims to entrap developing countries with massive loans and overtake the United States as an economic power.

But it does not mention the $6 million CEFC wired into the business bank account of trusted Biden family friend Rob Walker, a former Clinton administration official whose wife, Betsy Massey Walker, had been Jill Biden’s assistant when she was second lady. On Feb. 23, 2017, and March 1, 2017, two wires, each for $3 million, were sent to Rob Walker from State Energy HK Limited, a Shanghai-based company linked to CEFC.

That money was payment for work done by Hunter and his business partners during the last two years of Joe Biden’s vice presidency in countries from Romania to Russia, using the Biden name to open doors and find acquisitions for CEFC.

Nor does the Washington Post mention the company SinoHawk Holdings, which was set up on May 15, 2017, for a joint venture between CEFC and Hunter and his business partners. This was the deal for which Joe Biden was to get a 10% cut, as cited in an infamous 2017 email on the laptop, “10 [percent] held by H [Hunter] for the big guy.”

Hunter’s former business partner, the CEO of SinoHawk, Tony Bobulinski, has publicly said that Joe Biden is the “big guy.” But the Washington Post curiously does not mention Bobulinski, even though his name is all over the emails and documents on the laptop relating to CEFC, and even though the naval veteran held a press conference spilling the beans on the Bidens in October 2020.

It does not mention that Bobulinski met Joe Biden twice in 2017, to be vetted as CEO of SinoHawk.

Curious omissions
Considering the newspaper says it has had possession of a hard-drive clone of Hunter’s laptop since June 2021, these are curious omissions, which serve to underplay Joe Biden’s role.

“It’s clear the corporate media was complicit in helping get Joe Biden elected by suppressing what they knew would be damaging stories,” says Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, who with GOP Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa conducted an investigation into Hunter Biden and was accused by Democrats of peddling “Russian disinformation” for his trouble.

“The Washington Post story should be viewed as what Nixon’s advisers once termed as a ‘modified limited hangout,’ ” he says, using a propaganda phrase that means releasing a small amount of hidden information in order to hide the more important details.

Another piece of the Biden jigsaw puzzle was provided by Johnson and Grassley’s inquiry that accessed confidential “suspicious-activity reports” that banks are required to send to the Treasury Department, and allowed them to track millions of dollars from China, Russia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan paid into accounts associated with Hunter and Jim Biden and their associates.

Johnson says their inquiry was stymied by Democrats, who set up fake FBI briefings for him and then leaked details to the press to cast doubt on witnesses he wanted to subpoena, such as Hunter and his partners.

But it was also his own Republican committee members who got in the way, denying Johnson the numbers he needed to subpoena witnesses when his party had the power.

Johnson won’t name them, but Sens. Mitt Romney and Rob Portman were two Republicans who reportedly objected to the “political” nature of the subpoenas.

Johnson and Grassley have been vindicated now, but imagine how different history would have been if they had been supported by their own team. Joe Biden probably would not be president today.


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Until someone can prove that Joe is "the big guy", then I am ok with the media censoring this story. Back in 2020, these allegations could have played a pivotal role so they had a very tough decision on whether to let this story breathe.

 

This is the same writer that believes that the 2020 US Presidential election was stolen from Donald Trump.

 

They aren't censuring this story. Any media outlet can report on it.

 

That says a lot! LOL

 

Wrote what book?

Why is her book considered the book.

 

I never said it wasn't true. I dismissed it as political theatre and irrelevant. I might have said it was sus, but I never had to deny it's authenticity because I didn't think it mattered even if it was authentic. I still don't.

The report from the 50 spies had a take similar to my own. Their letter said specifically that they weren't saying the laptop contents were false - they didn't know. Instead they said the manner of it's release was consistent with a Russian operation MO and we should be cautious. If you asked your friend, his opinion might not have changed. Because even if intel people now accept the laptop emails as genuine, there hasn't been anything to disprove that their release was orchestrated by Russian spies. That is the thing you need to demonstrate to say they were wrong. ( I'm a little dubious about the Russian angle myself though - it's textbook October Surprise and the Trump campaign could have done it by themselves.)

I've got no problem believing Joe Biden is the Big Guy.