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Humane Society vs. Al Gore

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by weslinder, Jul 18, 2007.

  1. DonkeyMagic

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    well thats fine but we arent talking about who'd we rather have president.
     
  2. thegary

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    you know what? i think donkey actually has the capacity to understand but, like all other republicans, is in deep denial.
     
  3. DonkeyMagic

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    jesus. Is it everyone be a d******d today or what?

    what is it??? the weather?
     
  4. DonkeyMagic

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    and like the other "slightly left leaning" people on this board you cant have a conversation with someone who may, or may not disagree with you. typical.
     
  5. NewYorker

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    Just saying it's all relative.
     
  6. DonkeyMagic

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    yeah, diarrhea or constipation. Awesome :D
     
  7. thegary

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    you got the wrong guy. i'm not trying to have a discussion. i'm saying that you don't get it yet still feel the need to vomit your opinion. :)
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    I am more concerned about the carbon footprints of the wedding guests.
     
  9. DonkeyMagic

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    you dont want a discussion but are on D&D :confused: ..that makes a lot of sense.
     
  10. DonkeyMagic

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    true. was it indoors? outdoors? AC? light bulbs? Did they carpool?
     
  11. thegary

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    you were right :D
     
  12. DonkeyMagic

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    like two little teenage girls chatting in the corner. way to man up there "guys"
     
  13. RocketMan Tex

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    And you're playing right up to them. What a he-man you are! :D
     
  14. mc mark

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    aah...nevermind....

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    Attacks on Gore backfire.

    Yesterday, conservatives across the blogosphere, citing a People magazine article and a poorly-researched Austrailian Daily Telegraph article, smeared Al Gore by claiming that he ate Chilean Sea Bass — a threatened species – at a rehearsal dinner for his daughter’s wedding. Attempting to paint Gore as an environmental hypocrite, BlogsForBush, NewsBusters, and others expressed outrage over the hypocrisy. But, as the Telegraph reports today, “Al Gore’s fish dinner turns out green“:

    [T]he fish enjoyed by the Gores were not endangered or illegally caught.

    Rather, the restaurant later confirmed, they had come from one of the world’s few well-managed, sustainable populations of toothfish, and caught and documented in compliance with Marine Stewardship Council regulations.

    http://thinkprogress.org/
     
  15. jo mama

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    i have a sneaking suspicion that you and new yorker are the same person. very similar posting styles and now i see you 'two' responding to each other all the time.

    donkey magic is to new yorker
    as
    trader jorge is to big texx
     
  16. NewYorker

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    Gore is to diarrhea as Bush is to dysentary

    Gore is to constipation as Bush is to colon cancer

    Which would you rather have? :p
     
  17. rimrocker

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    Not according to the State Department, which I cited earlier in this thread. They are overfished and illegal catches are affecting populations, and it is regulated... but I think of "endangered" in the legal sense. Others may place another meaning on the word, but it is not a legally endangered species under the Endangered Species Act.

    Here's something from NOAA... notice the talk of "catch limits" and "valid dealer permits" and "monitoring" and "poaching" and "legal US imports." Nothing about "endangered."
    Again, I'm not saying there isn't a problem, but I am saying Chilean Sea bass is not currently an endangered species.
     
  18. nyquil82

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    I don't care if it's endangered. It's survival of the fittest out there, and if your species decides that it wants to be easy to catch and taste delicious too, then you deserve to be eaten out of extinction.

    The only reason pandas are alive is because they make $$$$$$$$ for the people who own them.
     
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    And that's an important distinction. An animal is not endangered only if it is on the endangered species list. There would be no point to it anyhow, as US law means nothing in international waters or waters controlled by other nations.

    Frankly, there is very little from a "legal" standpoint that can be done for the chilean sea bass.
     
  20. rimrocker

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    Not true. The ESA covers a number of international species... 568 to be exact (http://ecos.fws.gov/tess_public/SpeciesReport.do?lead=10&listingType=L). The US is also party to and enforces the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species, which lists species globally. The Chilean Sea Bass is not on the CITES list as endangered either. Also, as has been shown, fisheries can be certified, imports tracked, illegal fishing punished, and other regulatory and law enforcement actions taken... at least three US agencies and an international commission are involved in chilean sea bass fisheries.
     

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