How would you view Yao if he pulled a Tiger and had Transgressions?

reading comprehension problem?
The culture doesnt tolerate cheating doesnt mean you cant do it.
No?

 

Exactly, but as time goes by, seems like the culture doesn't look the same as it used to. Things change rapidly due to international interaction.

 

No Chance. Different Culture, Different standards of respect to their fellow human beings.

 

Not for the ones who have been brought up correctly with high standards and morals.

 

Such as Yi Jianlian in this case

 

... like who? The broad's a 6,5 WNBA player, not a 5,10 Victoria's Secret model.

 

Yao would really surprise me, I know that we are all human, but Yao is so unassuming, humble, and frank, which is why respect him more than most players. "It's like going to heaven and finding God smoking crack ..." Riley Freeman from The Boondocks.

It would had just about put a nail in the coffin to my hopes in life.

One of my other favorite players...Michael Jordan. I didn't expect him to be choir boy and never saw him as such (like I do most players), even when I was like 8 or 9. I knew he didn't seem like the type either, it was his personality to be a gambling, high risk taking, trash-talking, overly competitive, not open to everyone who approaches him, and philandering type of man. Yet, still a very honorable and savvy man still at times a down right a hole, like Christian from Nip/Tuck. (Yes he comes off like that on the court and even the commercials) Almost, like a real father.

And yes, Kobe Bryant (still an all time great) has nothing on him in any regard, except an occasional outside jump shot and one 81 point game. Yeah, people are really going to remember that in 30 years, has he ever transcended the game itself. I don't care how many more points he scores or championship he wins...MJ is the Babe Ruth of Basketball, like Tiger is for Golf. Still KB is the best of this immediate generation to give him his credit.

Which also me brings to the another point is that Kobe is more in Tiger's league with a PR created personality, or vice versa. Almost in a Disney way or a big record label pet project kind of deal. Which is why Shaq comes off more genuine, even though he is loud-mouth, frank, but a very fun and entertaining guy, sort of like Charles Barkley. "A guy hits a few jump shots and y'all think he's a great guy." I wasn't surprised by the rape charges or him casually trying to rat out a teammate's transgression that had absolutely nothing to do with his circumstances or possible felony charge, during a police interrogation (a snitch, someone more hated than child molestors and cops in prison). While, even throwing a few teammates under the bus, throwing a few teenage temper tantrums (like T.O.), and possibly might have quit on his team at one point, because of the team's direction. At that point he resembles Scottie Pippen more than he does MJ. Yet, some fans out there still think he is the greatest thing ever to step on the basketball court, since the wheel being invented. I just don't understand it, while I have seen other superstars, like A-Rod, Barry Bonds, Brett Favre and even Tom Brady become universally hated for whatever reasons. Yet, those players might be more important to their sports than what Kobe is to the NBA. I'd probably cheer all of them on before I would Kobe. And people wonder why a few on this board rather have Lowry over Kobe. Less headac...serial, persistent weekly migraine.

This is one thing I can respect about Yao (like a few other players out there, like Grant Hill and etc.), he doesn't throw baby tantrums or coaches under the bus when the team is not doing well and failing the goal. He often heaps blame on himself, when he doesn't play well or will say that the team as whole did not come through. I haven't heard one report of him trying to have a teammate traded or force someone out because he wanted more shots for himself. He also is what he projects as he is an ambassador-like public figure who is often humble and respectful, yet frank and sometimes very witty. It has nothing to do with culture, either. Except for living with his parents thing, even though Americans tend laugh at things like that, yet there are quite a few people who still do. He just comes across as genuine person and he's not imitating anyone or trying to be a celebrity. Always full speed ahead on the court, regardless if he is injured or not. He's the last person I would consider to be a sellout.

Though a few weeks ago, I read an article talking about how Yao Ming being a sell out to the Chinese people as some Chinese students said to their teacher (who wrote this article) and that he gives more to American than he does the China. He was a sellout with brief mention of how much money he gave to the flood victims a few years ago and it not being enough in some people's mind. I couldn't help that wonder where was that coming from and how he could been seen as some greedy, opportunistic celebrity or public official. (I guess they never been to America) Still, didn't agree with the students view point, because how can player honorably want to still play for his home country even with a hanging foot and insanely long NBA season, while often given to charities yearly. Those students still could have had a point, then I heard the same kids say that Kobe was cool . . .

Then, that ended to entire argument, because everyone clearly doesn't wear the same glasses. (P.S. if that were the case, you'd think he'd sell more shoes.)

 

Haha, this thread is funny. Yao knows he is carrying the image of his nation, and I think he has a pretty solid relationship with his parents growing up, so I don't envision him fooling around.

The thing with Tiger is it's not as if he fell in love with another woman. It's just affairs with so many women. He must feel so constricted by his life that he's acting up destructively. He should seek help.

 

have to quote it in full - because this is for sure the longest post of the year!

 

Yao would have to be part of a corrupt Chinese triad for me to look down on him. Like a "Ming Donaghy" scheme

Anyone in the news for cheating right after Tiger, itd be kinda like Patrick Swayze dying after Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcet. Reaction would be dulled from being numb by previous incidents.

 

I bet yao has some hos on the side in china, but he learned well from shaq. He knows when to pay his hush money.

While tiger is one of the recognizable people on the planet at least he is a normal sized human being, Yao is not so it might be harder for him to get away with it. In any case he is not gay so I am sure he has the urges.

 

Ok I misread the statement "Yao's culture doesn't tolerate this". But I find it funny because it sounds like in other cultures, like in America for example, people find it ok for a man to cheat on his wife?

 

It was a well known story for Yao Ming fans.

It was back in 2004. Yao Ming's wife, Ye Li was then still with the China women national team; they went to USA for training and they were playing against WNBA Seattle Storm in Seattle.

Yao Ming flew over to Seattle to watch the game so as to see Ye Li.

While Yao Ming was sitting on the courtside to watch the game, Lauren Jackson sent someone over and told Yao Ming that she had been a secret admirer of him, and wished to date with him. Yao just pointed to Ye Li on the court, and said...."Sorry, my girl friend is here." :grin:

 

To be precise, Sun Yue comes to mind.

 

Yoa is no different than tiger,kobe, or any other famous person. He's just a man with faults just like u and I. It wouldn't surprise me if yao already had affairs and his culture would be strong enough for the wife to be quiet about it. I would still think or yao as a good basketball player, no more,no less.

 

Uh, cheating on your wife isn't accepted in American culture either. That's why we're talking about Tiger cheating on his wife. Because it's not accepted in American culture. If it was OK it wouldn't be news.

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Yao was hitting hoes too. It's none of our business though either way.

 

So politicians are "hypocrites" yet black athletes get a pass. Makes sense since politicians are the ones who get fat endorsement contracts trying to cash in on their image instead of athletes.

Kobe and Tiger project a false image in order to financially profit by the perpetuation of that image. Logically speaking, when Tiger is on TV shilling GM or Accenture are you under the impression that it's about golf? Is that commercial telling you that buying that car will give you a scratch golf game? No the message is that by buying that car you can in some small way share something in common with Tiger and be like the guy you see in the commercials: in short his image. If he's cynically making money off some image that isn't real... how is that not hypocrisy in your eyes.

As for politicians, adultery isn't illegal. Unless they're breaking multiple city state and federal laws like this guy:



it's not any more hypocritical than athletes. public figures are public targets. anyone in the public eye profits tremendously from that exposure, being nailed when you screw up is part of the deal.

yup. people think they know something because they see him on TV. doesn't Yoa have a dozen high powered professionals who control every aspect of his image and marketing? you make a good point about culture though. obviously every culture cheats but compared to black culture, they keep things more quiet in Asia. some of those HK, Korean, Taiwanese dudes have kids and mistresses they keep hidden for decades

 

Please read my post again, and carefully please. Note the qualifiers as I did not mention ALL politicians.

 

Spot on sir.

To remain silent about the affair would be the best way to sustain the marriage in some ways, and also in this culture, they're not just going to marry them, then finding some cracks between the couple so that they decide to divorce, that would be embarrassing.