1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

How will Bush treat with Iraq's oil??

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by chinawang, Apr 9, 2003.

Tags:
  1. Rockets2K

    Rockets2K Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2000
    Messages:
    18,050
    Likes Received:
    1,271

     
  2. Chance

    Chance Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2000
    Messages:
    3,664
    Likes Received:
    4

    You're damn right. Your sarcasm duly noticed but I agree with the post. All of this horror is totally worth it.


    The loss of life is sad and I am one of the weak nuts that has actually cried about the loss of American and innocent lives. On two specific occasions I have sobbed and cried and broke down and prayed for their souls and families. (We pray for them daily but I'm talking about break downs) But that being said the liberation of the Iraqis and fringe benefits the world will receive is a worthy cause.
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,132
     
  4. No Worries

    No Worries Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    32,889
    Likes Received:
    20,668
    You forgot to add the damage done to Iraq by the US/UK "regime change motivated" economic sanctions, the UNSC busting no-fly zones, CIA fomented coupes, 1998 Operation Desert Fox bomb free for all, ...

    All of this reminds me of those late night 30 seconds TV commercials hawking sh*t nobody really needs or wants. With 5 seconds left, you know they are gonna say "but wait there's more .."
     
  5. A-Train

    A-Train Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2000
    Messages:
    15,997
    Likes Received:
    39
    Well, France doesn't get any of the oil, that's for DAMN sure...
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,132
    Gee, why on earth would they put economic sanctions on a guy like Saddam Hussein? :rolleyes:
     
  7. outlaw

    outlaw Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    4,496
    Likes Received:
    3
    Gee, do you think the sanctions hurt him or his people more?
     
  8. Hammer755

    Hammer755 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    1,494
    Likes Received:
    106
    I keep forgetting that it was America that forced Saddam to invade Kuwait. Sorry, our bad.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    129,236
    Likes Received:
    39,744
    Hey liberals, guess what?

    WE WON !!!

    Now be happy, or are you mad that all the things that you guys predicted about vietnam, or that it would be a long war, or that the world would never recover, or that it would inflame Arab worlds, or that terrorism would increase...or that....well, you get the drift,,,,,,,all of them WRONG !!!!

    BE HAPPY WE WON !!!


    WOOOT !!

    DD
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,789
    Likes Received:
    3,708
    No one ever said we would lose, and will you find a thread where someone said this would be another Vietnam, and proclaiming that the world has recovered after three weeks is ridiculous. Lets wait a little while to see how well its going to go. Hopefully it continues,

    but don't blow your load just yet
    I will get you some clean up materials.
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,132
    No need for sanctions anymore.
     
  12. No Worries

    No Worries Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    32,889
    Likes Received:
    20,668
    I keep forgetting that Saddam put a gun to the USA's head and demanded those crazy *ss sanctions. What a sadistic bast*rd!!!

    It's not like the USA has a choice in the matter, to say further a foreign policy goal.
     
  13. Cohen

    Cohen Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 1999
    Messages:
    10,751
    Likes Received:
    6
    Listen to the UN! Listen to the UN!

    ...oh, unless it imposes sanctions....then...BLAME THEM ON THE US! Yeah! That's it!

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Cohen

    Cohen Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 1999
    Messages:
    10,751
    Likes Received:
    6
    What a shock! :rolleyes:
     
  15. Hammer755

    Hammer755 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    1,494
    Likes Received:
    106
    So your suggestion would have been to allow Saddam to surrender, admit defeat in Gulf War 1, yet allow him to violate the terms of the treaty (re: disarmament) without repercussion.

    Yeah, that would have shown him.
     
  16. No Worries

    No Worries Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    32,889
    Likes Received:
    20,668
    Cool gif, btw.

    You might want to check the last UNSC vote wrt Iraq eco sanctions. In particular, look which veto members abstained. Imagine a country which has fine wine and cheese, and who also btw were making direct flights to Bagdad with humanitarian supplies.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,132
    ...and had oil contracts with Iraq...while Bill Clinton was busy trying to get the UN to understand that this was a serious matter.
     
  18. No Worries

    No Worries Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    32,889
    Likes Received:
    20,668
    Those economic sanctions really showed him who was boss.

    The US has used economic sanctions in the past (see Cuba) and knew that they were unlikely to be an efficacious policy. Not only did we know the policy would not work, but we also knew that it would likely lead to devasting results with the innocent Iraqi citizens (500,000 deaths of Iraqi children below the age of 5 have been attributed directly to the sanctions).

    Thus, the economic sanctions caused Saddam no pain while causing "genocide" to Iraqi citizens. Way to go USA!!!
     
  19. 111chase111

    111chase111 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2000
    Messages:
    1,660
    Likes Received:
    21
    I think the issue with sanctions is that they are what the U.N. embraces to put pressure on misbehaving governments. I can't tell you how many anti-war people I heard on TV saying that we should let the sanctions "work" (not just in this conflict either - it seems to be the knee jerk reaction to counter the suggestion of war). I agree that sanctions don't work when dealing with dictators but so many people who think that war should be the last resort will suggest sanctions because aside from war and sanctions what else can you do? Send special forces in to assasinate someone?
     
  20. RocketMan Tex

    RocketMan Tex Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    18,452
    Likes Received:
    119
    Shock and awe, baby, shock and awe!
    :D
     

Share This Page