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How Tmac needs to play

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by koopa, Dec 2, 2007.

  1. Nitro1118

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    AI brought his team to the Finals and Kobe won 3 rings. Arenas and Melo have never won scoring championships.
     
  2. hermbob

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    Look...whether he chooses to score or be a playmaker, the bottom line is he needs to go to the hole. Good things always happen when he does that, whether he's brought his jumpshot or not.

    This team goes as McGrady goes. We all know this. Personally I'd like to see him with the ball in his hands a bit more on the pick and roll, in the post or at the elbow, because he's really the only one (MAYBE Steve) that can consistently create for other teammates.

    He can still get his points, but he needs to be more efficient. He needs to quit bricking free throws (which I noticed he shortened up his stroke last night and didn't miss after that), quit settling for jumpers (whether he's hot or not). He needs a better mix of scorer and play maker. It can't be ALL of one or the other. Until that happens, the team's gonna struggle.

    And beyond McGrady...until they close out better defensively, quit leaving the floor on shot fakes, and QUIT LEAVING THE MAN WITH THE BALL, the team's gonna struggle.
     
  3. koopa

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    Kobe won with Shaq? forgot about him? I meant scoring leaders not scoring champs..sorry
     
  4. f_chowd0696

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    wow.. you really are pissy... I never said T-mac needs to be a scoring champion... Stop putting words in my mouth and stop making it personal... Most people agree with me that he needs to think about scoring first since that is his strength. You utilize all your player strengths. What you are saying is the same thing as JVG trying to make Luther Head trying to be pg. Sure Luther can bring the ball up the court but his strength his shooting. Your asking Mcgrady to not utilize his strength. He doesnt need to score 32 ppg... but he needs to be primarly a scorer since that his his strength....
     
  5. Ducky

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    BINGO.
    when T-mac scores 35 or 40 points, he has few assits, and usually, Rox lose.

    I say T-mac's 20-8-8 would lead the team, not 30-3-3.
     
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    :confused:

    really... Why is Mcgrady's ppg higher on Rocket wins than losses? Go to his nba profile and see season splits.... kinda ruins your argument
     
  7. blazer_ben

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    How hard is it to understand?. he created a ton of open looks for battier, alston, james and co. but either they were missing those shots or they were passing those shots up. you box score experts are really comical.

    Instead bashing tracy , you should be on alston, battier and james ass for bricking or passing up open shots. all you YOF box score experts are starting become pedantic. same sort of rubbish in each thread. he took 30 shots. whoopdeedo. in the second half he went 10-16. thats awesom. considering he had artest tailing him 24-7.

    Go read the kings message board. there praising him like crazy. there calling him a top 2 scorer. the most talented player in the league. it's just the YOF's who like to bash tracy to propup there hero.
     
  8. ShadyMcGrady

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    First of all T-Mac averages more points per game in Wins than in Losses.
    Second of all, 20/8/8 only happens when his teamates make shots. If they don't then the 30+/8/3 T-Mac appears (I don't see how rebounds change either way).

    You would think when the scoring pressure is off, you play free and therefore play better. Most players/teams that have no pressure can be dangerous. It's like a lottery-bound team playing just for the game and beating a team in playoff contention simply because they have no pressure. No one cares if they lose they are losing anyways but if they win they will get praise for spoiling the other team.

    This team shouldn't have much pressure on them to score because T-Mac and Yao are safety nets. They should just go out there and play their game. They should let the game come to them instead of forcing bad shots and passes because they have to score.
     
  9. koopa

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    "You tend to go with what you know is good," Adelman said. "In the long run, you'd like to see them be more facilitators, especially Tracy, where he can get guys other shots."

    What you gotta say abt that cow?
     
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    Pass it to an open Battier or Scola, who just pass it RIGHT BACK to McGrady on the perimeter cuz they're hesitant to shoot (we've seen this happen more than once this year)

    The players who DO shoot it aren't shooting working a crap % wise (James, Rafer, Bonzi)

    The players who ARE making a decent % of their shots (Scola & Chuck), Chuck isnt called upon for offense and Scola as already mentioned is still getting used to playing with McGrady (but adjusting nicely)

    Not like McGrady or anyone has to work too hard for Mike James to get involved....Supporting players need to perform to their level. McGrady "icing" the rest of the Rockets is absurd
     
  11. Trisha

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    04-05(51-31,PPG:25.7,AST:5.7):
    14-1,PPG:30-34,AST:6.8;
    4-0,PPG:35-39分,AST:5.0;
    4-2,PPG:40+,AST:5.7。

    05-06(34-48,PPG:24.4,AST:4.8):
    2-1,PPG:30-34,AST:5.0;
    6-3,PPG:35-39,AST:4.7;
    1-1,PPG:40+,AST:4.0。

    06-07(52-30,PPG:24.6,AST:6.5):
    11-2,PPG:30-34,AST:5.3;
    5-1,PPG:35-39,AST:6.2;
    2-1,PPG:40+,AST:6.3。

    07-08(9-9,PPG:25.9,AST:5.4):
    2-1,PPG:35-39,AST:5.3;
    1-2,PPG:40+,AST:4.7。
     
  12. koopa

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    If that's your case then tell us a team who is good without at least one top facilitator? Suns have nash, Boston has KG and Pierce, and allen who all can penetrate and pass, wow i dont know one team who is great without a top facilitator. Whether you like it or not, easy buckets come from great passes. I.E Boris Diaw, Tim Thomas, QRich, Marion on the SUns became extermely efficient and productive because of the assists of Nash. Facilitator=easy buckets. And fyi passing a low confidence player to shoot a 3 isn't that hard, but creating confidence by penetrating more and passing more opens up the game more and I think only tmac in this team is capable of that.

    The truth of the matter is, even yao needs a good facilitator to score just like amare does. Yes the truth hurts, but as i said the ONLY GOOD facilitator in this team is TMAC..NOBODY ELSE, if we had a half way decent PG in the team who can consistently create easy buckets just like the AVERAGE NBA PG SHOULD then i would agree that TMAC SHOULD score primarily. But apparently the ROCKETS don't have that LUXURY. JUst open your big EYES..it'll become obvious. Tmac was praised last year for being a facilitator, now he's scoring 30 ppg and i'm not blaming him for the losses but he's the only talent that can change his game for WINS.

    People calling out the difference in DEFENSE is absurd because the roster is the same. JVG simply slowed down the game with his half court set every possession that made it a low scoring game: which made our D look great.
     

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