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How Tmac needs to play

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by koopa, Dec 2, 2007.

  1. Yetti

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    I have already said all of this, you are just repeating the obvious :p
     
  2. khimmatramka16

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    obviusly just judged the game by looking at box score. tmac passed the mall way more than i wanted him too yesterday.. only to let rafer either brick or turn it over.. tmac and yao were all stars yesterday and played the way they need to. the rest of the team was the problem.
     
  3. thiuronium

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    Play Tmac less, which means a ~30 min per game. Alway let him play the last 8 min of the game. Tell him to penetrate for us to close the game instead of shoting those freaking jumpers.
     
  4. thiuronium

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    Tmac should trust Scola more. You should never trust Rafer, Shane and James when they are not hot. Especially Rafer, he is such a streaky shooter.

    The first choice should be Yao and Scola or even Hayes when they close to the rim.
     
  5. koopa

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    I watched the game actually , until they got blown out i paid less attention. Deron williams have a lot of kirk snyder type players but he passes to them for easy dunks. Nash has a lot of dunkers he passes to for easy buckets. Tmac passing alone when doubled doesn't mean he's creating assists. IT's how he needs to penetrate more and pass it to open players who are actually close to the basket and not just pass blatantly obvious passes or look for his shot.
    I'm not even blaming tmac, but he shot more than he looked to create yesterday. Maybe he passed a lot but passing doesn't mean creating. Then that would make rafer a creator then because he passes the ball a lot?

    You guys don't realise if he drove to the basket or was more of a playmaker it would give scola and bonzi more opportunities inside and make the rest of the team better. That's a better chance of winning than looking to shoot because whether you like it or not he was looking to shoot more in the last 3 games I watched the games lol
     
  6. Nitro1118

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    He is not passing as much because Adelman wants him to be used as a scorer. T-Mac does what his coach tells him...nearly 7APG last year with Gundy, and 3 40pt games through 12/1 this year with Adelman.

    I feel the system is far better this year, and T-mac is being used much better, but we just don't have the proper talent (they are talented group of role players, but just don't fit the system) to get it done.
     
  7. MayoRocket

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    T-Mac is happy distributing the ball. Last night he had no choice because his teammates just SUCKED shooting the ball. Pay more attention when you "watch" the game.

    1-star for this thread.
     
  8. f_chowd0696

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    Why are you trying to make Tmac a playmaker and a scorer.... Doing all that will put a toll on him by the end of the year. Here is an idea, utilize T-mac's biggest strength...scoring! Look at MJ... His one season of averaging 8+ assists per game, the Bulls did nothing... Every year after that MJ hovered around 5 assists per game( where Mcgrady and Kobe are this season) and concentrated on on scoring at a efficient rate. When T-mac is playing at the top of the 3pt line trying to create for others, his scoring efficiency drops dramatically. Look at this season. We see less of t-mac getting pick n rolls at the top of the 3pt line and more iso's and off the ball movement inside the 3pt line.... thus, instead of shooting 41%, he is shooting 46% and not outputting as much energy.
     
  9. koopa

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    He is already scoring 30+ ppg and it is not paying dividends chow. I said have him score 20 ppg..that's not much scoring..and have at least 9-10 assists per game. That's not asking for much. It won't tire him. Yes he isn't a PG but it's not like there's a choice when james and rafer suck as PGs. MJ had talent who knew their roles and could score open 3's like steve kerr and many other great shooters. Tmac with this supporting cast needs to operate like last year because this is JVG's lineup. There are no athletic speedy players like the kings have and they can score at their own skill consistently. Notice the teams that beat us have balanced scoring instead of 1 or 2 "stars" doing everything?
     
  10. f_chowd0696

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    lol 9-10 assists per game?? He isnt steve nash... He is Tracy Mcgrady and is one of the best scorers in the league... making him a full time point guard will not utilize his strength.
     
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    plus, it isnt Mcgrady's fault that everyone is missing wide open shots... Rafer and Battier are getting just as many wide open shots as last season when Mcgrady was averaging 7 assists per game... only they are missing most of them.
     
  12. koopa

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    I disagree with you chow, let's end it at that. You obviously don't know what team basketball is about. tmac needs to get it up to 8-9 maybe not 10 assists per game. Just watch last year when they were winning how TMac was less of a scorer and more of a playmaker.
     
  13. ShadyMcGrady

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    Hey bro I think we won last year with defense. We defended opponents and put up just enough offense to win. I don't think you want T-Mac giving those scrubs more opportunities to miss. They aren't capitalizing on opportunites given to them. If T-Mac didn't score, we would have died in that game and you know that.

    T-Mac's playmaking for other teammates doesn't win games, and it didn't last year. Last year, we DEFENDED the opposing team, not beat them in a shootout. T-Mac is a great playmaker and a great passer with great court vision, but he's not a PG. Let him score especially if its at an efficient rate.

    We are losing because of no defense. The only thing you could ask T-Mac to do more is drive in and that's just being nit-picky, even though he could afford to.
     
  14. f_chowd0696

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    The thing is... t-mac isnt the type of player that will average 8-9 assists per game. He has never done this in his career, what makes you think he will suddenly do it now. You play each man to his strengths and t-mac has a full time pg is heavily under utilizing him. He is a scorer... If T-mac consintrates on scoring more effeciently rather than averaging 8-9 assists per game he is more effective. Last season he averaged 7 assists per game put it took a toll on his fg%. He only shot 41% which is horrible for a 6' 8" player. This season he is shooting at a much more efficient clip. Team basketball does not mean that you need to average 9+ assists per game... Team basketball means playing your strength and role in the team and not deviating away from it. T-mac's strength is scoring. He plays out of the team concept only when he forces hs shot and takes bad shots over double teams. T-mac only should be the playmaker in a offensive set when he is being doubled and cannot score... Other than that... If he is being iso'ed on single coverage he needs to take advantage of that and try to score every single time. Its not ball hogging for Mcgrady, because he is such a great scorer.
     
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    Exactly... We didnt win 50+ games last year because of t-mac's playmaking ability. Our offensive offensive efficiency this year and last year are about the same in other words, our offense sucks this year and last year. Defense kept us in games last year. Last year we would never let the Kngs penetrate on us like that and rack up 100+ pts.
     
  16. mlwoo

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    Our team is so mediocre right now that the only way we are going to win against good teams consistently is if t mac goes off for fifty a night. No one can shoot and Yao is clumsy. This won't happen though because t mac is a vagina.

    It's really not time.
     
  17. mlwoo

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    Koopa is r****ded and has way too much faith in the rest of the offensively terrible Rockets.
     
  18. spysta

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    Tmac should not be a full time playmaker that doesnt even begin to make any sense honestly he shouldnt even be playing any of the guard positions he should play the small foward position and provide as much offense as possible on any given day.
     
  19. f_chowd0696

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    Koopa is basically telling t-mac "Hey t-mac, I know you have this out of the world scoring talent, but you know what... I don't want you to use that out of world talent."
     
  20. koopa

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    chowdown you aare so smart tell us what scoring hog champs did for their teams lol A.I, kobe arenas, lol carmelo?? you can't include lebron in there because he does everything. Tmac has passing strenghs too..douche bag..watch the games! i'm done with you yao only fans. you probably shut down your tv when yao got ejected. chow I'll let you reply but don't expect me to read it
     

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