and the TWolves can get a 1st round draft pick: atlanta trades: Dikembe Mutombo $14,423,400 to knicks atlanta trades: Chris Crawford $2,200,000 to minnesota TOTAL: $16,623,400 knicks trades: Allan Houston $9,000,000 to minnesota knicks trades: Marcus Camby $5,750,000 to atlanta TOTAL: $14,750,000 minnesota trades: Terrell Brandon $8,325,000 to atlanta minnesota trades: Wally Szczerbiak $2,162,280 to atlanta TOTAL: $10,487,280 If the Hawks throw in a 1st rounder, it might tempt the TWolves!. Knicks lineup 5 Deke 4 LJ/Kurt Thomas 3 Rice 2 Sprewell 1 Ward TWolves lineup 5 Nesterovic 4 KG 3 Crawford 2 Houston 1 Billups/Avery Minn can use the Hawks pick to shoreup 3 or 1 or 5. Hawks lineup 5 L. Wright/Camby 4 Henderson/McLeod/Camby 3 J.Jackson/Szczerbiak/Mottola 2 DerMarr/L.Robinson 1 Brandon/Terry/Maloney Any thoughts? ------------------ GATER [This message has been edited by GATER (edited December 06, 2000).]
Thatta way to combine every rumor we've heard over the last few months ------------------ Mitch Meluskey...The real Slim Shady
SSG - Even if it were done tomorrow, the rumor mill would not stop cranking for even a mere 15 minutes!!! ------------------ GATER
This would help the Wolves too much. ------------------ If I make this shot, the Rockets will win tonight. If I miss, they might still win, but I doubt it. If I make two in a row, Florida's votes will actually count.
Actually, I was thinking that the Wolves come out the worst in the deal. Atlanta comes out pretty nice. ------------------ RealGM Rockets Draft Obligations Summary http://www.gaffordstudios.cjb.net/
Throwing in a pick wouldn't be a good idea for Atl. Because a lineup of Brandon-Jackson-Sczerbiak-Henderson-Camby (or whatever other grouping they come up with) is gonna guarantee them a high lotto pick for quite awhile (until/unless DeMarr matures). ------------------ I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve immortality by not dying. - Woody Allen
Atlanta gets a bad deal. Plus I think they want Jason terry to become the starting pg. He is probably the best on the team right now. ------------------ Vice President of the Jason Collier fan club!
It is actually not that bad a trade all around. Except it will never happen. Realistically, all the players you listed have been mentioned at some time with regards to a trade .... but .... to summarize: Hawks: in need of a major roster facelift. Major as in ... MUST. Deke has only been considered trade fodder so far because he has the summer negortiations coming and he is the only true mega-tradeable commodity there. The only one that could be traded and move the Hawks into a sizable gain on the roster. Deke: he is costly, but wants to stay where he is. Management (and owner) want him to stay as a first choice. Trade will be considered only if it nets substantial improvements. TRhge Team Histories: All of the teams involved have ended up with some pretty poor moves in the last three years. Most notably the Hawks and the Knicks. Knicks: have major redundantcy in their roster. Almost devoid of position balance. It is obvious. Yet ironically have made few improvements (if any) for the last three years. The same three years that produced "has been" and "also ran" tatoos to appear all over their Eastern Conference playoff asses. They have not fully recovered as a Ewingless team,IMHO. Not surprising since Van Gundy still attempts to run the same type of schemes as if Patrick still haunted the Garden paint. Houston: Allan not the city. He is expendable because he is one of the redundancies. Still a favorable talented player with a new contract due this summer. All other considerations aside, he would have been a much better pickup for Phil Jackson this year than JR. Terrel Brandon: I don't care what Flip and all the other notables (Except McHale) say, this guy is going to be traded. And soon. The puppies need some options on the roster. Brandon isn't anymore. A less than #6 playoff spot and a leap to the second round will be considered a failure for this season. That's Kevin McHale and Kevin Garnett's opinion, not mine. Wally Szzzz: Less likely to be traded, but definitely a pick up for some lucky team. Most people keep thinking that the Wolves are a wide open offense. That may be a misnomer. Wally needs some set plays, someone coming out of the post, and opthert half cort action to be really effective. Lately he has not been getting the type of shots he needs or deserves. I would go out on a limb and offer a couple of Rockets for Wally if given the chance. I am not a big Deke fan. Don't trust Camby's committment. Do like A. Houston, but he would be luxury (and a cost drain) we do not presently need. Would like to have Spree (I know I'll get postings on that). T. Brandon I don't want for any price. He's a big hospital bill and playtime complaint away from sinking some team,IMHO. I would take Crawford. Great upside. ------------------
You should have involved the Nuggets giving up McDyess somehow, for scrubs....you know, just to keep our Nugget friends coming back!!! ------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
its not a bad deal, but a hawks first rounder could turn out to be curry, wallace, or any other 1-3 picks. if oyu havent noticed they arent too good.
billups is better at the 2. avery is not ready. isnt a good trade unless minnesota gets jason terry. ------------------ --TEX
Gater, I have thought about your proposal for several days and came to realize that a trade of A Houston this season would make it almost impossible to take a shot at Webber next summer. NY would have a roster of Spree, Mutombo, Rice, LJ and assorted other players. Very little trade value left and nothing that would interest the Kings to do a sign-n-trade deal if Webber had his heart set on playing in NY with Spree. The Knicks would have to move some major salary in a sign-n-trade and LJ & Rice represent major salary. Neither player would "fit" into what the Kings are doing. So, does NY make the Mutombo play this season, or keep A Houston and hope to swing a sign-n-trade for Webber next summer? Mango ------------------ Lets get the Mo Go working! Test Your NBA Trade Ideas 1. Put new topics in the proper forum. Things happening in the rest of the NBA 2. Use clear wording for new threads. 3. No duplicate threads 4. Conduct yourself as an adult. The Serious Police are watching. Donate Blood or be assimilated!