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How Systemic Racism and Implicit Bias Affects African Americans

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  1. jiggyfly

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    Can you bring any data to back you up?
     
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    Back what up. I already backed up the claim a fourth of Americns have Medicaid

    Stop with the penis envy. Poor people have free insurance not including CHIP for their kids which even more qualify for

    Shut up
     
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  3. pgabriel

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    @jiggyfly

    23% of Americans have Medicaid while only 14% are considered poor
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    How do you define poor?
     
  5. pgabriel

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    That's according to the census
     
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    Because it would address the problem in a way that would ultimately lead to less need for them....maybe i'm just cynical but it's like we're in some sort of bizarre point in time where rent seeking is the goal. If they won't get the kudos, what's the point?

    A large part of the problem if we've turned these negative externalities into industries, in the US it turned incarceration into an industry, in Europe they turned them into export industries (natural unemployment rates of 15% while others have 3), in Australia it turned unemployment into an industry, in these cases, it has large chunks of taxpayer money pipelined through to create industries in fields where the goals should be pursuing its reduction.
     
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  7. Severe Rockets Fan

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    40%...so 60% did? Wow, so you must be so very knowledgeable about inner city kids when you're out in the middle of nowhere. I promise you most black folks will think you're a racist and an idiot if you tell them you know most of them can't get on the internet because they don't know how/don't have the means to(yep, black people can think other blacks are racists against their own race, ask @RocketRiver). Urban=more wifi hotspots...rural=less...You're trying too hard...

    Edit...whoa whoa whoa...you're in 'NAVASOTA'...that's 'rural'? WTF. Bro, you're literally 15 mins from Bryan and 20 from Houston(hell I drive 15 to get to my nearest H-E-B)...that's not rural Kansas or some crap. Is that what you're saying to justify you're point? That's like the distance most suburbs are from Houston. You certainly are doing you're best to make up stuff to prove a point. So you’re saying rural blacks and inner city blacks are experiencing the same issues?
     
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    Do you think the experience of being poor is accurately reflected by how the census defines it? Did you know it defines it the same way for someone living in NYC as someone living in Arkansas?

    Just because you aren't below the poverty line doesn't mean you are not poor.

    A family of 5 with $32K in income in NYC is definitely very poor. But they aren't defined as poor by the census.
     
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    Some of you guys argue to argue. I can't give my own percentage based on what I think poor so I used the census.

    You can't give a percentage on your opinion either. So when debating issues people in charge and people like us start with a base standard

    The census bureau doesn't pull standards for poverty out its ass

    Secondly people aren't starving here so if you have a roof over your head and you have simple luxuries like television then it's all subjective

    Therefore the census bureau puts a standard in place for deciding actual government policies and so idiots like us don't get bogged down arguing what poor is.

    It's a waste of time
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You're complaining that people who barely have the money to feed themselves getting free health insurance. Meanwhile you have no complaints about tax cuts for the rich.

    At some point you just have to admit the callousness of your position.
     
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    They have food stamps housing Medicaid. I'm not comparing. I said poor people have better insurance than most in this thread. It's free and and taken by a lot of family practitioners


    Black people and liberals need to stop judging poor black quality of life by measuring it against white people. Ending all racism would not put us on equal ground. The past happened.
     
  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Poor people have better insurance than most in this thread? Are you saying most people in this thread are unemployed? You certainly do seem to be comparing here.

    I'm not sure what you are saying - that poor people shouldn't get these benefits? Or that they are living easy lives?
     
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  13. pgabriel

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    Working people pay
    They dont

    Same doctors

    The **** you don't understand?

    All they have to do is show up. Free insurance won't save ignorance about food. Middle class blacks would do better to stop bitching about government and help them overcome their ignorance

    Stop making me repeat same easy understandable ****

    Free
    Free
    Free
    Free
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    Free
    Free

    Most family practitioners accept it
    Most family practitioners accept it
    Most family practitioners accept it
    Most family practitioners accept it
    Most family practitioners accept it

    I can win your stupid ass battle of atttuition cause I'm spitting facts

    You ain't challenged ****

    Oh how can you say they have better insurance

    You keep asking that stupid ass question because you don't thin

    Obamacare is about shoring up middle class insurance rates. He didn't have to do **** for the poor
    Get the hell on with that same as question. But I have no life do bring on the dumb ****
     
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  14. pgabriel

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    If you don't understand free put me on ignorant

    Arrogant mofo don't understand it gets no better than free

    You know one way Obamacare tries to help middle class? Make some eligible for Medicaid

    /stupid ass argument
     
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    Free: enjoying personal rights or liberty, as a person who is not in slavery.
     
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  16. pgabriel

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    @Sweet Lou 4 2

    Don't take my word for it

    lower
    Medicaid provides more comprehensive benefits than private insurance at significantly lower out-of-pocket cost to beneficiaries

    Fre
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    Edit: forgot link
     
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  17. pgabriel

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    This mofo talking about slavery
     
  18. KingCheetah

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    More comprehensive benefits but what about regular benefits?
     
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  19. pgabriel

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    This is idiots like Trump can win elections. Middle class struggles some girl drops fatherless babies killing them with ignorance while she got better insurance.

    You mofos don't know **** just assume the evil American government gave her bad insurance

    THE CHIC CAN'T BOIL WATER
     
  20. CometsWin

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    I'm sure I've posted this study before. It shows that being a black male is always at a disadvantage to those from the same socio-economic backgrounds. Rich white boys are better off as adults than rich black boys, poor white boys are better off as adults than poor black boys.

    Extensive Data Shows Punishing Reach of Racism for Black Boys


    By those in power and those in authority particularly in education and criminal justice where one feeds into the other. Little black boys are criminalized in the school systems and graduated into prison systems. They're given harsher punishments for the same offenses every step of the way. Not only that, the standardized testing mechanisms in which school systems identify that most talented students is flawed which puts those students at an early disadvantage that is very difficult to overcome.



    Oh I'll definitely make that case and this is where like I mentioned we can effectively substitute wealth and race. So take any wealthy neighborhood, predominantly white residents typically, paying more in property taxes to a school system where kids gets the best equipment, the safest campus, the best teachers, the best curriculum and compare it to a poor neighborhood, predominantly minorities typically, paying perhaps even the same percentage in taxes but much less in total because of depressed home values. That system is intentionally created that way to keep money in that neighborhood and those neighborhoods are racially segregated by design and by choice, white flight. On top of this, there is what you would call the green advantage. This is where in a wealthy neighborhood perhaps one parent doesn't work and is involved in the school via PTA or volunteering, donates money as well because of the higher level of disposable income and this all manifests itself in the quality of the educational experience. I've seen cases before where white residents in a large school district are so upset that their tax money goes to the entire district that they actually try to form their own white/wealthy school district within the larger district. Now, layer the harsher punishments and criminal justice system on top of that, the standardized testing biases on top of that, and then just basic socio-economics of being poorer on top of that. Then you can throw in a dose of conservative sloganeering and privatization on top of that to steal away public school money for voucher programs that most help the kids whose parents are most involved in public schools anyway. It's a massive, far reaching problem.
     
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