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How replaceable is Patrick Beverley?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sydeffect, Jan 5, 2015.

  1. Haymitch

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    I don't think he is so easily replaceable. And I think he'll easily fetch $8 million per from some team.
     
  2. basketballholic

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    Bev is worth keeping as a trade chip. We should sign him (if possible) to a bloated 2-year contract with the second season being non-guaranteed. I can't imagine any team paying him over around $4 million per season at this point. So if 3-12 is his top end, then offer him 2-18 with the second season being non-guaranteed. Make sure we've got another good point defender on the roster (Aaron Craft/KJ McDaniels). And hold Bev for a possible trade at the deadline or play out the string with him next season. His $9 million essentially expiring contract could become a means to trade for a much higher salaried player (such as Joe Johnson) at the deadline. Or instead of using cap space next summer we could use Bev's non-guarantee deal to facilitate trades and operate above the cap as an option.

    Also, one more benefit with a 2-year guaranteed contract at a high salary....Bev is likely to play his tail off to try to justify some team keeping on that contract OR to earn as much as he can on his next deal.
     
  3. mercy road

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    On which teams exactly do you believe that Bev could earn a starting point guard spot?
     
  4. YOLO

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    yikes. anxious to see what dumb team would even offer him that much.

    on a side note good for him if he somehow fetched that much from a team.
     
  5. mercy road

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    We agree 100% on this point. And Bev at $4M/year is probably worth locking up for three years. That would give Bev plenty of time to mentor in someone like Ty Jones or Grant.
     
  6. Haymitch

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    The Mavs, for one. And depending on what happens in the draft or with other teams in free agency, a team throwing big money at Bev wouldn't shock me. I'm not saying it would be a wise move, but I see it happening.

    Really, if not for his injuries I'd say he'd be guaranteed to make that much. Jose Calderon, for example, is getting paid nearly $8 million per year through 2017. I would say 1) don't underestimate the ability of owners/GMs to make bad financial decisions and 2) with the coming jump in salary cap, $8 million will be the new $3 million.
     
  7. jump shooter

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    Bev coming off the bench behind Llull would be fantastic, he may not get $8 million per but I'm still shocked to see Chandler Parsons get maxed out as well so nothing surprises me now days. Bev is not a starting NBA PG IMO but he's the type of ingredient you need in making a championship contender ie.Daymond Green, he's a bulldog when healthy in the playoffs and won't back down from players like Westbrook ect. Resign him ASAP.
     
  8. larsv8

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    I never understood this, "he is not a starting NBA PG".

    He clearly is a starting NBA PG, as he starts on an NBA team, as the PG.
     
  9. mercy road

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    In my opinion Bev can only play as a starter on teams with a very ball dominant shooting guard. I believe that there are three of them in the league: Kobe, Ellis and Harden. He is not going to LA, so that leaves Dallas and Houston as his only possible destinations. And it is not certain that Dallas retains Ellis this summer. So unless Cuban loses his mind again, Bev is not going to be over paid by any team this summer. My guess -$4M/year or less.
     
  10. edward nigma

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    Unless we were able to move up and select D'Angelo Russell, I believe we still need Beverly. Even if you bring Llull over, you probably still need Beverly because it will take some time for Sergio to adjust to the talent level and pace of the NBA.

    I am hesitant to just hand him (Sergio) the starting point guard spot unless he is absolutely abusing Beverly (everyday) in training camp. I doubt this happens because Beverly is such a competitor, but you never know.
     
  11. YOLO

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    he's only a starting pg bc he's able to fit next to harden. he is not a starter for a majority of nba teams in the league as he does not possess all the pg abilities to run a team on his own without a capable combo sg next to him.
     
  12. larsv8

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    So basically he is, in fact, a starting NBA pg.

    Why are we concerned about starting PGs on teams without a ball dominant SG?
     
  13. YOLO

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    not sure why you're finding it hard to understand. he may be for this team because of harden but no NBA team is going to go out and try to sign him to be their starter because he isn't capable of being a full time starter without a versatile guard such as JH in the backcourt next to him to be productive.
     
  14. Doctor Robert

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    Dude... He clarified his point after you made a legit comment. Now you're just bickering about semantics.

    We're concerned about that because those are the teams that would pay highest value for Bev.
     
  15. larsv8

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    I am not actually finding it hard to understand at all, more illustrating a point.

    Your position seems to be actually be "no NBA team is going to go out and try to sign him", which I disagree with. What his role is on some other team is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is that some team will.
     
  16. larsv8

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    Not bickering about semantics....

    This is important, because the Beverley conversation needs to be framed in a certain way.

    Whether he is a starting NBA guard is irrelevant, what he is worth is irrelevant.

    The only thing that matters is what he will get and how the Rockets need to approach it.
     
  17. YOLO

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    no my position is clearly stated no NBA team is going to sign him to become their full time starting pg. so wrong, his role is actually pretty relevant. everything else you just said is irrelevant because it was never said.

    lots of team would want him. of course they would. a player that plays hard and does the dirty work to win. if you're just trying to be difficult since it seems like to want to bicker then there's no point in explaining any further
     
  18. larsv8

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    Disagree.

    Dallas
    LA
    Miami (if they lose Dragic)
    New York
    Nuggets (if they trade Lawson)
    Sixers
    Utah

    Are all teams who could pursue them as their starting PG.
     
  19. YOLO

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    you can disagree all you want but anyone who knows basketball would understand they're not gonna sign Bev for him to become their full time starting pg.
     
  20. jump shooter

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    Isaiah Cannan started 9 games this season for the rockets and is he a starting PG? Having a Harden in the backcourt with Beverly covers up a lot of weakness's on the offensive side of the ball IMO. I think Beverly would flourish coming off the bench in a big way.
     

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