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How realistic is it for the Rockets to put together a compelling package for Kevin Love?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by acshen, Feb 3, 2014.

  1. Aleron

    Aleron Contributing Member

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    Who are we bidding against? and how much is a year and a bit worth? From Minny's point of view, i'm not sure they can get decent value at all for it to even be worth trading him.
     
  2. Benchwarmer

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    Love is the closest thing Minny has to a superstar since Garnett left. They won't trade him away, unless they can get a superstar back. More than likely they will dump Rubio. Coach Adelman doesn't even play his starting PG in the 4th quarter anymore, he'd rather go w/ J.J. Barea who can shoot.
     
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  4. Da_Spark

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    It takes a special talent to put up those type of numbers. Kevin Love is a beast. Putting him on a team with Harden and Howard and it's over.
     
  5. Incubus

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    three teamer...
    Boston gets Asik, Motiejunas, Knicks 14 second rounder
    Minny gets Terrence Jones, Jeff Green, 2 rockets first rounders and clippers 1st (via boston)
    Houston gets love
    I think everyone says yes to that.
     
  6. don grahamleone

    don grahamleone Contributing Member

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    5 star thread about a trade.

    I think you did something very unique, OP.

    My 2 cents: Any trade for Love that does not include James Harden or Dwight Howard, you give it a very very serious consideration.

    TWolf view: Any trade that gets you Asik, Lin and Parsons along with a ton of picks is worth considering. Those guys are winners and as good as Love is, the team needs winners and center depth. Three unselfish starters has to make us better and if one or two of the picks turns out, it'll look like highway robbery for us. Don't forget what happened to Memphis after they traded Gasol.

    Rest of the NBA's view: The Rockets better win a title right away if they trade that much of their future and glue. They are one injury away from being terrible and out of the playoffs if they gut their roster. They lean on Parsons to fill up a stat sheet and Jeremy Lin speeds up any offense.
     
  7. pippsux

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    I'm just going to put it out there..Kevin love is nothing more than state stuffing big man who can't run not a defensive anchor and for all his Yrs in the league has never I repeat never taken or been part of a playoff team?.... I think I'll pass.
     
  8. pippsux

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    Kevin love is a nice player but I don't see how we trade any part of our team for him and expect him to do better with our inept coach. If he can't flourish and lead a talented enough team in miny with a hall of fame coach to playoff contention then I'm sorry love needs to assess his game and true value...
    .again I'll pass, thank God it won't happen.
     
  9. c1utchfan925

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    Might as well just wait until LBJ opts out and try our luck with him. If we could somehow retain both Harden and Howard in a trade for Love (like many others have pointed out) we would definitely lose our depth and chemistry (regardless of how little that is).

    Hopefully the Wolves stay where they're at and Love decides to bolt for greener pastures. I can't see the Wolves trading Love, unless he wants out or shows he won't resign to another contract.
     
  10. arno_ed

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    Im a big fan of Parsons and would hate to loose him, however I would trade him in a heartbeat if it meant getting Kevin Love.

    Kevin Love is not a stat paddler. He gets a lot of points and you do not need to make plays for him, he would thrive with the rockets. He does a lot of things for his team which could result in a win if the team was not as dysfunctional ad the wolves. He needs a rim protecting C next to him (and not Pekovic who is not a rim protector). A Howard Love combo is ideal, Howard can go for the block and Love can go for the rebound.
     
  11. don grahamleone

    don grahamleone Contributing Member

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    Is Love doing things to help his team win? Yes. Has he in the past? Yes.

    Our team is weak in the category of giving up second chance points. Defensive rebounding improvements for us is the same as a blocked shot or a steal. Kevin's numbers are not great when it comes to blocked shots, but he gets a lot of steals for a big man and think about all those altered shots that Dwight forces. With Love, they become rebounds and a Rockets possession.

    +/- Numbers for Kevin Love:

    http://www.82games.com/1314/1314MIN.HTM
    http://www.82games.com/1011/1011MIN.HTM
    http://www.82games.com/0910/0910MIN.HTM

    Seriously undervalued stat on this team: FT%

    Kevin Love instantly improves our FT%.

    Oh yeah, and he can stretch the floor.....consistently. More room for Dwight in the post.

    Trading or not trading for Love, we win. Depth or serious improvement of our weaknesses.
     
  12. Soft Takes

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    I would love Love on our team! Just wouldn't want to gut out our team if he wasn't even for sure gonna stay. Maybe trade Harden+late first +couple 2nds and maybe cash to sweeten the deal. Minny could use some outside shooting from their pg so harden could take rubios spot. Meanwhile we'd be left with a prime defense with Love to help secure boards and perhaps better team chemistry/perimeter defense/decision making/ball movement/team effort mentality with Love replacing Harden.
     
  13. crash5179

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    Kevin Love's supporting group of players is a hell of a lot more proven then what Harden had to work with last year.

    Nikola Pekovic - 10x the offensive player that Omer is and a damn good rebounder
    Kevin Martin - borderline all-star most of his career
    Cory Brewer
    Ricky Rubio - lottery pick point guard
    JJ Berea - big time contributed off the bench for the Mavs for multiple years including during their championship run.

    Compared to what Harden had to work with

    Lin - undrafted player with about 25 games worth of starts in his career
    Parsons - 2nd round pick with less than a full season of starts that had not shown much offense
    PPat - A bench player turned starter that couldn't rebound and played poor defense
    Asik - a defensive rebounding specialist that had never started
    Carlos Delphino - a player not currently in the NBA because no other team wanted him

    There is no question that you would have taken Kevin Loves supporting cast over the Hardens.
     
  14. meh

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    The #1 factor in being able to trade for Love is Kevin Love himself. The Rockets can't stack enough talent for a fair trade no matter how many non-Harden/Howard players you want to put in. It's simply impossible. Two things must happen first. One is that Love declares he's leaving Minnesota in FA. Two is that he's only willing to re-sign with a select few teams, with the Rockets among them.

    If given the above situation, then only Chicago can offer more, should they also be on the list of teams Love would want to be on. Chicago has a better pick than us, Charlotte's pick, and a Eurostash widely considered worthy of a top-10 pick in this year's draft. The Rockets can't beat that. But it's unclear whether Chicago would give up all that, or if Love will risk going to a team where you never know about Rose.

    Other than Chicago, I think this offer likely can get the deal done. Jones, Asik(traded to a 3rd team for a 1st or something similar), Beverley, 2014th pick, 2016th pick, NY's 2nd round picks, and perhaps the right to one of our Eurostashes. IMO, Terrence Jones' recent play puts him as the best asset available. This is assuming OKC owner doesn't change his cheapness. Or that the Clippers don't just make a straight up Griffin for Love deal.
     
  16. don grahamleone

    don grahamleone Contributing Member

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    Fixed. Wow you were way off. I'm not hating on Harden, but Love IS a good player on a bad franchise that traded away the best things that happen to it. Love in Houston is a winning Love.

    Again, depth or decreased weaknesses. That part is the GMs decision…if there is one.
     
  17. daywalker02

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    A combo guard(mediocre sized point SG) is more of a center of Offense than a 3 pt shooting PF.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html

    KLove delivered in his best seasons without having the ball in his hands.
    That is key. (WinShare)
    Although we love the dimensions a 2 guard like Harden brings to the game.
     
  18. dragician

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    Parsons + Asik for Love.
     
  19. cebunit

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    Step away from the keyboard.
     
  20. Zoplicone

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    If minny had lost pekovic to free agency then this would have been a good starting point for a deal
     

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