How much of Philly's cap space can we buy for the Knicks pick?

What is the Nets pick situation like? I'm going to assume they don't hold their own but if they do Philly could just use their leverage to say we won't do it for a second round pick - we need a lotto protected first from the Nets themselves.

But they probably don't have their own picks.

When is the cap calculation date? Is there a trading window from the end of the season until that date? Where Philly might wait to see what they could do then?

Otherwise I'd say your probably right. High second round pick to encourage Philly to act as a facilitator in a deal using as much of their free cap space as necessary sounds about right.

A pick is better than nothing for money they'll have to spend anyway. But conversely I don't value second round picks all that highly... They're obtainable in various ways.

 

Philly don't need to spend anything, and given that its payroll not cap space, there's basically no chance to meet it. They'll just pay the bonuses to their exisiting players

 

Sounds like a random trade idea.

 

LOL.... what kind of BBHollic logic are we dealing with now? Lopez, JJohnson, Nets, Knicks pick... what??? haha. Oh... Jopat. Busiest mind on the GARM for sure.

The cap floor is one of the biggest cap misconceptions around the league. There really is very little motivation to hit that number. If anything you reward your players more for playing on a bad team.

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That being said, I do see Philly making a minor move here and there in the next 48 hours to get a pick or two. Just not whatever convoluted arrangement Jopat is trying to cook up here.

I doubt the Rockets have any reason to shed salary this year, and next year they really have no reason to shed salary prematurely when we need the players now more than ever. They actually needed salary earlier in the year before the Terry/Pap signing/Shved deals to have the ability to play around the deadline. They are much more likely to use those contracts to make a deal straight up than to now turn around and shed them just to prepare for a buyout situation that will probably never happen.

Random thread is random.

 

Philly isn't going to do this. They will just pay the surcharge to their existing players.

basketballholic is not reading the CBA situation correctly, again.

 

11.25M... if we throw in a prospect or two...




the amount to cover JMcGee as we dish him to 76ers and keep Lawson for ourselves.....

 

Doesn't make sense. No one wants to give away an expiring contract so badly that they are willing to give up a valuable asset.

If it's not expiring, Philly is not interested.

This is only going to happen for a team that is desperate to take salary off the books, but those teams can just adjest their existing deals to avoid needing to shed salary. Just like the Rockets would not take on an extra $1m in a trade, because if they do they would have to surrender an asset to avoid paying the tax. Nor do we have any expiring contracts which we don't need for a championship run.

 

it's not like they're gonna be making a push next year... they'll eat both years with next year him being an expiring high dollar contract...

 

Your scenario makes little sense. If the Rockets wanted to trade for DWill or Joe Johnson, they would have to include Terry, Kpap, Shved and a couple of our guys getting paid <2mil. But the thing is, every single one of these guys (other than Capella and Dorsey) are already an expiring contract if the team they were traded to wished them to be. There is no need to ship any of them off to a third team in order for the Nets to have maximum cap space this summer.

 

To be fair, this isn't about the Nets having expiring cap space this summer. It's about the Nets getting their cap # this year down as far as possible, since they suck already and the owner wants to save as much money as possible... any move he makes like that will do nothing to affect the teams current value.

The Nets want to trade away salary and take nothing back.

 

Obviously it would be useful to ship some off to a third team due to the 15-player limit, but in terms of getting the team we are trading with more cap space for this summer? Not really.

 

Ah, that is true, I was not considering the Nets wanting to get below (or near) the tax line this season to save some money.

 

Given how far into the season we are, they'd need to go well into the luxury tax to have any chance of hitting the floor.

They may sell their cap space, that's been the goal all along but i doubt the knicks pick is enough to stake a claim, nor do i think it's in either teams interest to have a time share.

 

The 76ers currently have ~15mil in total team salary tied up for next year. They will have to sign their draft picks this summer, so that number should jump what, 7 million or so? This leaves them with over $40 million of cap space heading into next season. They would have to fill this amount somehow so I do not think they'd hesitate to eat a contract lasting through next year if they got an sort of valuable asset.