How much longer until Bud is demoted to 3rd string?

He was a rookie with Scola playing in front of him, how much of a polished game were you expecting from him. And I guess the ankle surgery doesn't get respite from the crowd either.

I'd rather have Patterson out on the floor than Hill, I'll say that much.

 

Well of course and honestly it is not that much of a deal on PPat so to speak, just on the organization not going out and getting bigs that can bang.

I guess Dorsey freaked them out so much they wanted to get jump shooting ones every year.

A player with a POST game would be such an advantage in today's NBA.

DD

 

Yes, especially if combined with another high-post seven footer that could, pass, shoot the 3 and defend the paint.

 

I agree, hopefully we can send both Budinger and Williams out at the trade deadline for a big man that can bring some fire power off the bench behind Dalembert because their not doing any good for us warming the bench they deserve to get minutes in this league just doesn't look like it here in Houston.

 

So is Bud in McHale's doghouse now?

 

I think Parsons just an all around overall better player. Maybe Kevin Mc Hale thinks giving those Small foward minutes to Courtney Lee, Patterson, and Parsons is a good idea. I agree with Mc Hale. They are probably all better options to play more than Budinger is.

 

BTW - Courtney Lee has about the same % in his shooting as Chase, and Parson's is coming back down to earth as well.

I still would start Parsons because of his D, but Chase's numbers are not far off of theirs, and neither is Twills....we have a lot of "Same" type of assets.

DD

 

can we trade C-Dud already..this system doesn't fit his style anymore

 

If Lee is getting minutes at SF and Budinger is not seeing any minutes then he is already 3rd string.

 

Budinger is not useless. These guys play defense, offense, and rebound better than Budinger playing in front of him now. So Budinger is still a good player. We just have too many good options for Mc Hale to play there.

 

As Morey has commented about Flynn and T-Will, I think Chase isn't playing poorly so much as Parsons, Lee and Dragic have just flat out beat those guys out for playing time in the rotation.

I still think that Dragic gets traded at the deadline (potentially for a first round pick), which will open up playing time for Flynn, Budinger and perhaps even T-Will. More likely, Flynn gets some minutes to relieve Lowry, and Bud gets more time as the second wing off the bench behind Lee.

 

Why do you think the Rockets will trade Dragic? He seems comfortable and happy in his role as the third guard on the team and gets to play significant minutes. With some of the 2009ers coming off the books, I dont see why we can't offer Dragic a lil extra ($6, 6.5 mil/year?) to convince him to re-sign with the Houston Rockets.

 

I guess it depends whether Morey thinks Llull can do what Dragic is doing now.

 

Do you honestly see Morey paying a backup that much money? When his starter is getting around $4 million a year?

Could you see the potential problem with that?

DD

 

This. I would much rather keep the guy. I think the backcourt of Lowry, Lee, Martin, and Dragic is an elite backcourt in this league that could win us a championship if we added the right pieces in the front court.

 

It's more of a cap management issue than a basketball issue. Like DD said, I just don't see Morey paying up to retain Dragic AND Lee this summer. They just need that cap room/flexibility too badly.

Re-signing guys like Goran Dragic to deals like you are suggesting is exactly the sort of thing that keeps mediocre teams mediocre.

Morey would rather take one step back in order to take several steps forward in his attempts to build a championship-contending roster.

 

LOL why is it you suddenly become a statboy when you have a point to make, but then you go old man jenkins on the "new fangled statistical analysis" when people say something you don't agree with?

Parsons and Lee's contributions aren't the same at all to Chase. Parsons' shooting numbers are irrelevant to his production on the court, he stops shooting when he's ice cold and contributes in other areas like D, rebounding and assists. Chase is directly tied to his FG%, if he isn't hitting shots he's a negative on the court. They aren't the same player at all.

 

As much as I love Bud, time to trade him back to Adelman

He seems useless in this system AND he still plays at best mediocre defense on his good nights

 

Honestly I'd rather keep Dragic rather than trade him for a first rounder. We'll see who gets moved at the deadline IMHO it might be Lee, C-bud and Scola/Kmart for an upgrade at the wing position (Gerald Wallace? Batum?).

I don't know what Dragic will be worth in the open market but I doubt he gets more than the mid-level, which the Rox can easily match. I think there's a high possibility nobody will take him at all since everyone knows we'll match, and we can offer him a 3-4M a year contract. I like him playing with Lowry, and I think he can play as an SG and give us a championship calibre backcourt.

 

My guess is that, if the Rockets have a good record and look to be in the playoffs, they will keep Lee and Dragic at least for the season. The team wants salary flexibility, but this can be sorted out in the offseason. The team can wait to see whether a signing of (or trade for) a star can be worked out first before deciding whether these guys should be kept (especially with RFA status), signed-and-traded or renounced. It may well be that no star wants to sign with Houston and the best use of some of the cap room is to bring these guys back (if the money is reasonable). It may also well be that Kyle Lowry, Kevin Martin or Scola would be included in a trade (or trades) for said star(s) (or amnestied to make cap room for them) and the team would actually need Lee and Dragic to be starters.

In the end, I am not sure that giving away Dragic for some low first round pick is worth it.