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How much longer until Bud is demoted to 3rd string?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pge71188, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. crash5179

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    No head scratching at all. At the time AB was playing great and KLow came to the team as a back up. AB was a 20 point a game scorer the year he won MIP which came on the heals of that great series he had against the Lakers in the play-offs. AB never played defense and when his offense failed him and he went into a funk and pouted it was clearly time to part ways with him.

    Certainly many on this board prefered Lowry all along and they have been proven right, but it was easy to see why a coach would not just bench a 20 ppg scorer who looked like he was playing great beside Kevin Martin in his break out season.

    With Bud it was an different situation. Lee can play SF but his size keeps him from being the regular starter at SF. Adelman allowed for a bigger rotation than McHale likes. Lee was the primary back up for Martin and Bud the primary back up for Shane so naturally Bud got first crack at the starting rotation when Shane was traded. The Rockets played their best ball of the season after the Shane trade with Bud in the line-up and likewise Bud played great.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I don't buy any of that crap. AB was playing fantastic ball and Lowry had not proven squat until he got his chance to start.

    His offense was woefully inadequate, now he has since gotten a lot better, and deserves to start, but he is not nearly as good as some folks on here try to make him out to be....and arguably AB had a similar impact in his MIP season as Lowry has had.

    And this whole Chase thing is funny too, sometimes players fit into a certain type of system or with a coach more than others.

    Chase was danged good under Adelman as a starter, and has struggled under McHales lack of system.

    The team has changed direction, and some players don't fit the new direction as well as others, any intelligent person can see that......

    Doesn't mean everyone can though.

    DD
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Some players are better at ISO ball than others....

    DD
     
  4. redhotrox

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    Yup, we played at an extremely high level with Chase as a starter under RA, so I think this is complaining just to complain.

    Lee is just not a starting SF; he constantly struggles against big wing players because he’s the size of Rafer Alston.

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  5. xiki

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    Does there not seem a natural synergy with T'wolves? Lee is buried behind Martin, is unfit for major minutes at the 3. Bud worked well in RA's system.

    T'pups are on the precipice of relevancy but they are mispositioned. Johnson needs to be at the 3.

    K-Mart and Bud for Beasley and Williams. I don't want MB but Williams makes sense and everyone gets to play where they should.
     
  6. CXbby

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    Ok. Maybe head scratcher isn't the right term. Yes, I see "why" Adelman would not bench Brooks for Lowry too, but that doesn't mean it was right. In fact it has been proven to be wrong.

    I don't buy it. Lee can play SF, and he is by far the better player compared to Bud. That is enough to play him more. Lee was the primary back up for Martin, but Martin plays over 30 minutes a game, and Lee is too good to only play 20. You run a 3 man platoon of Martin/Lee/Shane, with spot minutes going to Bud. That is exactly what you are going to see now with Martin/Lee/Parsons. It has taken McHale a few games to figure it out too, giving ample opportunity for last year's starter to prove himself. He has proven himself.
     
  7. CXbby

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    As far as defensively Lee does struggle against big wing players. Bud struggles against anyone.

    As far as every other aspect of basketball, Lee is simply better.

    We did do well last year with Bud as the starter. That doesn't mean we couldn't have done even better with Lee. McHale seems to agree.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Maybe we would do better with Lee starting instead of Kmart......

    Kmart and CBud to Minny for......something.

    DD
     
  9. ROXTXIA

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    Williams will be a beast. Tough to say if he's a 3 or a 4; more of a 4, I think.

    In any case, I'd like the kid, too, but I think we'd have to yield the NY pick or something else.
     
  10. dobro1229

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    I ACTUALLY agree with you for once.

    Lowry was a totally different type of PG coming off the bench. Was more of an energizer bunny type, pushing the ball in transition as much as possible, and drove the lane with wreckless abandon. Great for a "career backup" (had to... sorry)

    Your absolutely right about Chase too. He isnt made for this system. He needs to be on a uptempo, movement based offense. How soon people forget how awesome this guy was in transition his rookie year when he was coming off the bench with Lowry.

    I still think the Rockets have high value in Budinger and wouldn't trade him for just anybody or anything. So I wouldnt throw the gauntlet down on him just yet. If the offense gets clicking around mid-season he could be a very valuable part of this team coming off the bench.
     
  11. daywalker02

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    I don't agree with Chase played well under Adelman. His second season he showed up after the allstar break or was it before.....showed up for half a season. Do you call that professionalism? He stunk it up because his shot was not falling..... couldn't do enough else.
     
  12. flamingdts

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    What Chase needs is a new system where he can suck for half a season and still get the starting job in the next half the season.

    Half man-Half effort.

    So much potential in his rookie year, but absolutely 0 passion and fire.
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    Another victim of the DD jinx.
     
  14. Spacemoth

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    Ask the Spurs who they would rather face, Parsons or Dragic.
     
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  15. roslolian

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    LOL DD's getting flak from almost every post he makes.
     
  16. roslolian

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    I don't think there's anything there worth getting. Rubio and Love (who are both untouchable), and a bunch of knuckleheads. Maybe Derrick Williams? I think getting him would be worth trading Kmart, C-bud and maybe Dragic/Ny Pick/MM.
     
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    Did Budinger even play against the Spurs tonight? I don't recall seeing him though I did miss some of the game. Was he out with the flu?
     
  18. daywalker02

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    He was not used because of basketball reasons. ;)
     
  19. asmith8266

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    Hahaha what's the tally now?
     
  20. apollo33

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    Lee is a straight up shooting guard. He is not a combo 3/4 like Battier, Ariza, Tmac etc. simply because he will be outsized by people like Lebron, Melo on defense.

    Lee is more like a 1/2 combo guard on defence, I remember him playing great D on quicker guards like Rose that Kyle Lowry seems to struggle with.
     

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