How Millions of Muslim Deaths feed the Cycle of Terrorism

okierock · Oct 24, 2013

rocketsjudoka said: ↑

I think this is a basic problem with whether the West can actually produce positive change directly. The Neo-Con idea of imposing democracy has proven to be a failure and has done more damage than good. I don't think this is so much that the people there don't want democracy but that such change has to happen internally and in countries that have pretty much never had civil society just declaring democracy isn't that simple.

Also the US history of propping up dictators helps to feed in the distrust of people in those countries. At the same time though as I have said before there does seem to be an attitude of victim hood that the radicals are exploiting.
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First, he said, the world’s Muslims must develop the ability to see through the one-sided portrayal of the West.

“It produces the refusal to take ownership of anything,” he said. “If everything is a puppet, not only don’t you take responsibility, you can’t! Therefore, there is no actual grievance. ‘It’s a Western plot’.”[/rquoter]
That attitude does seem to be handicapping the development of civil society.

I presume your question is rhetorical but if I can give my two Dinar. I agree with Sweet Lou that we need to disengage from the region. My own view is the region needs to sort out it's own affairs without US support either way, including Israel. I am very curious to see if Saudi Arabia will actually pull away from the US and while in the short term that will create a lot of problems it could be a longer term benefit.

None of this will be easy as we have 80 years of involvement in the region and with an interconnected world it will be very difficult to just untangle ourselves from the region.
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This region has been fighting over sand since before Christ. The US being there only gives them somebody to blame it on. I agree with getting out but if we leave the region totally alone "including Israel" Israel may sort it all out for us and it won't be pretty.

AroundTheWorld · Oct 24, 2013

Mathloom said: ↑

What kind of warped planet are you on when poll after poll of Middle Easterners states that their biggest enemy is US presence in their region, yet these countries magically end up with governments that are friendly to US governments and don't even dare to sneeze towards US troops. How long are you going to be caught in the same fallacious propaganda that the Spanish, Portuguese, British and French vomitted onto their people when they used the same colonial tactics for decade after decade? Do you still believe that the British were in India to help Indians? Do you think that Arabs are so thick that Americans have been here helping them for 60+ years and Arabs just don't recognize it? How good is the stuff you're smoking to be able to keep believing that?
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It's all someone else's fault...self-victimization once again. But not untypical for people from that region.

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