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How many wins do you think we would have right now if Tmac was in the lineup?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by nguyen3706, Feb 6, 2010.

  1. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

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    this will be my last response b/c i've tried to stop talking about the guy b/c he's no longer a rocket (i wish his threads would go to NBA DISH).

    the only game where he struggled defensively was the magic game. in the other 5 previous games, he showed EFFORT, and he showed improvement in his movements and offensive game. he showed the willingness to play within the team and never stopped the flow of the offense. he really didn't hurt the team that much in any of the game really where negative momentum was shifted whenever he was in the game.

    it wasn't like he was a lazy bum on defense (you can watch the clips clutch posted). it wasn't like he was a liability. people just nitpicked out TWO FREAKING plays (carl herrera for instance) and went off in a post on the guy.

    i know +/- can be deceiving but here were tmac's:
    v. detroit +12
    v. denver -10
    v. dallas 0
    v. thudner +1
    v. clips +3
    v. magic -8

    so overall, was he a lazy bum on defense? a ball stopper on offense? a chemistry killer? in those 6 games? please.
     
  2. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    Not too many more. It kills me to say this but Tracy may be done.
     
  3. sephiroth.hk

    sephiroth.hk Member

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    May be similar position as jazz.

    We can see Even Boozer may not be a jazz again next year
    and Millsap can totally replace the position of Boozer.
    but Jazz handle this case much better than Rockets Tmac case.
     
  4. choujie

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    How can one good game be enough to offset 6 bad games? You tell me that. Andersen had a better game than Tmac this season, do you think he should get more minutes the next game playing like crap the minute he stepped on to the floor?

    According to reporters, they pretty much agreed he'd play around 7 minutes for a several games before they decide what to do next, RA didn't reduce Tmac's minutes for his crappy play in other games, so there was no reason for RA to increase his minutes just for one good game either.

    Could Tmac kept that trend to forct RA to adjust? He couldn't. So what did he do? He whined. He wouldn't need to if he really could produce on the court more.

    In the end, he plays worse defense than Ariza, and he shot worse than Ariza too. I don't see how a sane coach could increase his minutes based on that.

    Amare scored 0 points in 4 of his 6 games? Tell me when that happened?
     
  5. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    I wanna believe Tracy has something left, but its not looking good right now. I know he only played 48 minutes this year and that not really enough time to show what you made of. But I really believe if he was still a ok player he would be playing to help this team win right now.
     
  6. Naija Texan

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    How can you use the 10 points against the Clippers as a gauge to say he could produce. It's the Clippers!

    I say it all the time and Adelman said it in an interview right when McGrady walked out, it was a matter of trying to win games. McGrady wasn't anywhere near what he was offensively and became horrible on defense.

    Did you see the Denver game, where we were up by nearly ten, McGrady comes in for Battier, Carmelo goes off and we are nearly down by ten when he returns to the bench? A critical key to this team's success hasn't been the offense but defense and in all of McGrady's game he was shown to be a bigger liability when confronted against quality starters then Chase Budinger.

    Ironically just like he was in December 2008 when he was trying to play through his injuries, in December 2009, he was in the exact same shape and I'm sure Adelman just didn't want bother with it, but he seemed willing to give McGrady time to return to form. McGrady and his people wanted something else and the whole thing blew up. Ironically, had he just been patient, he'd probably would be starting for us against Miami next week and hopefully would be healthy enough to play. Instead because it looks like he couldn't put his own ego in check take the limited minutes, return to game shape and be like Mutmumbo was for the team, ready to go late in the season when we might need your talents more, he is left looking broke down, not trade-able, not a team player and as far from a top end athlete in the 2010 summer as you can get considering his former earnings.


    McGrady's best bet for the future, might be to try to get signed at a minimum to whatever team lands LeBron and come off the bench to try to get a ring. Because, his headlining days are dead at this point unless he lands in some place like a Bosh-less Toronto or a Red-less Milwaukee Bucks.
     
  7. adammendoza4

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    Take twenty shots from the current team and give them to T-Mac, you won't score more points. T-Mac is lower percentage than most of the current guys. We're scoring much more now than we did with the McGrady teams. T-Mac would take us back toward more Van Gundy-style half court play and lower-scoring games. Not convinced we would have more wins at all.
     
  9. Torn n Frayed

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    Less than we do now, the guy is a total and compelete jake, a quitter, a has-been. And someone who only cared about himself and his stats, NEXT.
     
  10. aggie87

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    tmac was the one that carried this team to 22 wins, there is no doubt in my mind that we would be a top 4 team in the west
     
  11. crash5179

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    Not true.

    We have plenty of reasons to hate TMac. Broken Promises, no play-off series wins, terrible shot selections, yearly decrease in shooting percentage and who can forget last season blocking the Rockets trade.
     
  12. toby

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    This is a business. If he could make that much of an impact, we'd be showcasing him right now (I don't care what personalities are involved). An impact player, even with an attitude, is an impact player that is trade bait (cancer or not). He's not ready and has lost a step or two. If he were on the court, his value would be waaay down right now.

    Business. Plain and simple.
     
  13. towW

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    Dorsey>Hayes>Tmac

    I know it looks backwards but having Hayes starting as center is a little bit much... Honestly I like the ChuckWagon and what he has done this season but it's almost like treading water. He's a good postup defender and.. a good ball stripper? He's good but we really need height/post presence. That can block shots and rebound. How many times have we seen a guard slash to the hoop without a hand up on the ball?
     
  14. AXG

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    I think we'd be in the same position with or without McGrady. His 7 minutes a game haven't made much difference.
     
  15. bloop

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    lol (phonetically Nguyens = "wins")

    to the topic of this thread... it's a tough call. much harder than projecting wins with Yao, since we know Yao will come back healthy and we know that he's retained his touch (92 FTs).

    Tmac obviously would play better than he did in limited minutes once he played himself back into shape, but how much better? Dunno... I'd guess 5 or so more wins, but he might have Me-mac'ed Houston out of some games as well. Could be a lot more wins as well though if Tmac is truly back in shape... no way to tell basically...
     
  16. Hball

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    Exactly, but in this case Adelman had personal issues with t-mac so he sold management on T-mac being a cancer to the team, they decided to side with him because Rockets were winning and had great chemistry(at the time)
     
  17. JMAD21

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    McGrady is NOT worse than Ariza!

    It seems to me that people let his injuries blind them of what he did for our Organization!
     
  18. tmacROX1

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    LOL!anyway, we are No.1 in west with tmac.whos watching the super bowl?
     
  19. acefan18

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  20. RocketMadness

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    About tree fiddy.
     

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