How ludicruous is the idea that Lebron/Bosh/Wade win 45 games?

If each player gets $16 mil (ie max money) next season, the Heat just committed $48 mil to three players. If the cap for next season is at about $54 million, what kind of quality players do you think Miami can bring in with the $6 million or so left? They would have to sign at least 5 players to the minimum vet salary just to have any semblance of a roster

 

Nobody's forcing Miami to sign all 3 of LeBron, Wade, AND Bosh. They would be better served signing 2 of them and using the rest of the cap room to sign significant contributors rather than vet min players.

 

So using that argument to get Bosh to eliminate Miami as a destination seems facetious.

 

The issue is that Wade and James both have to have the ball in their hand to be effective. For lack of a better word, this yields a clusterf$%k on the court. James and Wade's effectiveness is inherently reduced. On the '97 Rockets, Barkley and Olajuwon didn't have to have the ball to be effective; they could play off Drexler just fine. The setup is slightly different as the '97 Rockets didn't have a playing style conflict like James/Wade would.

That's why I think the dream scenario for ESPN (they'd only have to spooge on one team, then) is bogus. James/Wade cannot be on the same team and, IMO, won't be.

How long will they have to wait? No one knows. The Heat's draft picks will all have to pan out, and judging from their draft of Beasley who they vetted quite heavily, their drafting skill leaves a bit to be desired. Do these three guys really want to waste away their prime years waiting for quality players to arrive (and mature) via draft or yearly MLE signings?

Another factor no one is looking at is that Toronto does not want Beasley. They've poo-poo'ed a deal involving him already. Without relinquishing Beasley (and a few other contracts), Miami cannot sign 3 max free agents. Thus, again, a Bosh/Wade/James dream scenario relies on those 3 agreeing to less than max... and that won't happen.

So you don't have to dig, here's a pertinent quote from the article I linked above:

 

Nice to see everyone running with a story that might not even be true.

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They can go over the cap by signing players with their bird rights. So I'm sure GM's can work their magic.

Having said that, those three players in the eastern conference will win more than 45 games even if they play with NBDL players.

 

How are they going to sign players that have bird rights who weren't on their roster in the first place? IIRC the team has to have bird rights to the player before said player's contract ends and only at that time can the team go over the cap to re-sign said player.


I highly doubt the heat are dreaming about re-signing QRich or Carlos Arroyo

 

Can't they just sign wade last?

 

I highly doubt the heat will be able to do that considering his salary is counted as a caphold at this very moment

 

That would allow Wade to make more money than the other two (you think he'd have the gall to do that to Lebron and Bosh), but it wouldn't save them from being bound by the cap with regards to how much money they have to work with in filling out the rest of their roster.

In fact, it would hurt their ability to sign anyone else. As soon as they pass the cap they can only get vet min players (and their draft picks of course who will be making less). They won't have any exceptions.

 

well, I am not familiar with Rockets in 90's. but look at the Boston on 2008, they had a very very very good supporting cast around the big 3:

1. Rondo - young promising PG, later 1st round pick.
2. Perkins - young promising C, later 1st round pick
3. Glan Davis - early 2nd round pick
4. PJ Brown - Vet
5. James Posey - excellent bench player, signed a full MLE after win the champion
6. Leon Powe - mid 2nd round, but played like a lottery pick, Boston's Landry


if Lebron/Bosh/Wade end up in Heat, Maimi has to fill up the roster NBDL players.

And don't forget, the big 3 in Boston really complement each other very well with a top defensive big in KG, a top shooter can play off the ball in Ray Allen and a top offensive threat in PP.

 

Nope. He'll either have a cap hold or they will have renounced his Bird Rights.

 

This isn't going to happen. All the recent rumors point away from a Miami three-max team. And consider this bit of info from Larry Coon, the salary cap expert:

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-freeagency-100629/cap-room-summary

So not only would one of the three have to take less than the others, but they'd have to fill out the rest of the entire team with minimum salary players.

This ain't going to happen. And that's why Morey is a genius. He's able to make this great declarative statement about a three max team without having it proved to the contrary.

 

There is a cap hold for Wade's max salary, while he is unsigned. If the Heat renounce Wade, the cap hold is gone and they lose his bird rights.

 

Looks like Miami just got......

 

Oh ok I stand corrected then. Thanks

 

our big 3 in 97 complimented each other as did the big 3 in boston, wade, lebron and bosh do not compliment each other

 

In a regulation NBA game, there are 240 minutes played split amongst all players for a team. Last season, Lebron averaged 39 mpg while Wade and Bosh each averaged 36 mpg. That leaves 129 minutes to be split amongst total scrubs.

I don't know exactly how it would play out, but it's very possible that a team of 3 superstars and nothing but scrubs could fail to deliver results.

 

They can't sign Wade last to make more money than LeBron or Bosh. There is a cap hold for Wade right now. They only have enough cap space to sign 1 max free agent, unless Miami renounces Wade's bird rights. Then, they can Lebron and Bosh, but they can't sign Wade.