So basically you want to take our best 3 pt shooter outside of T-Mac out of lineup so we can pad Howard and Mo's stats. Mo cant guard PFs, what makes yo think he can guard faster SFs. Also, our season is NOT over. Look iam just as fustrated with this season as others are but its too early to tank this season for a draft pick or for trying to pad players stats. We are currently 3.5 games behind the clippers and the lakers (for the 7th and 8th playoff spot). thats not exactly a lead that can not be overcome. Lets atleast wait till the All-star break before we decide to tank the season.
so does this mean juwan's value is even lower and there's nothing anyone will offer for him or does it mean we just want to get rid of him less than mo t? honestly, i'd rather lose howard's extra years over mo's extra money. does howard have 5 years left to mo's 3 years, including this year? i wanna say cato comes off the cap in two years when yao's extension would happen and mo had one more year on top of that. but yeah, i wouldn't just give away a guy who was a 6th man of the year candidate recently. guys who can score in bunches (even vastly overpaid ones) are not to be given away just b/c jvg doesn't like them. now if les just doesn't like paying him, then that's different. but if there's one thing we don't need less of, it's scoring.
I think it's safe to say that JVG manages to depreciate a player's trade value rather than appreciate it.
That's actually an interesting aspect...many times, a player's value will be assessed at least partly based on his stats. Since JVG prefers a low-scoring, low-possesion style, people's stats will go down. Contrast that with Dallas. It's easier to trade people when they have higher stats.
His great offensive ability doesn't help his value as much as his lack of defense devalues him. There are too many good PF's in this league and if he is going to start he has to be able to defend them and he is not even close to doing that. THe PF/C players in this league right now are superstars and have become a very strong position. So a player like Mo is no longer a great PF being only a shooter. If he can't defend he is worth crap in the eyes of most in this league.
I think you're right. I could not think of anyone played under JVG actually have his value going up unless you count Allen Houston getting a Max in NY.
I would like to point out that Mo was actually in the dog house first...this stems from last year until now...=P
WHAT PRICE MO As we know. . . I never was a MO T guy I preferred Kenny Thomas K9 The Madd Down . . . I'm going to say he would be flourishing now but KT had HEART and HUSTLE and an incredible Work Ethic I b*tched when we got mo i b*tched when we trade KT to give Mo space So . . .all that said . .. . I TOLD U SO!!! *grin* Before Mo - We had KT then we drafted Eddie I would say . . . of the three . . .WHICH WOULD YOU *NOT* want on your team??? Could u imagine this team with EG and KT manning the PF spots? Rocket River
Can you imagine a Rockets team without JVG I have to be honest that i thought Mo T was a good pickup back when we got him considering what he did in LA for his first few years. I loved Kenny Thomas more than him though. He might not have been the most exciting player to watch and didn't scream and shout on every play, but he was all hustle. He fit the Rockets just like Carl Herrera, Larry Smith, etc. He was a hard worker and if his shot was working he never gave up on his hustle, rebounding, and defense.
Mo has NO value (as i have been saying for years) either on the court for a successful team or as a part of a trade..... that is until he is the last year of his contract and then we might be able to get a second round pick for him.... for me this one of the worst contracts negotiated by the Rockets All-time, i never saw the value of it would have been happy to let him walk for nothing (we it would not have been nothing for the rox, it would have been a large bonus) back when his previous contract was up, Power Forwards have to be able to rebound and defend and he does neither, it makes the Hallucination, Mooch, Maloney or even Ward contracts look delightful if there ever has been a chance to trade him previously the rockets were just doubling their stupidity and ineptitude for not pulling the trigger, theren't aren't many worse 'contributing torwards winning versus salary' contracts in the league
Easy everybody. While Taylor isn't a very good rebounder & can't play defense, he's always been a pretty good scorer. Take a look at Howard. He's been a career 17+/7+ player every year of his career, except one. That is, until he came here & got into JVG's system. He's now averaging 7.3/3.5 for the year, so far. It's not like he just forgot how to play basketball. It's JVG's system. Period! Is it possible that Taylor's game is being affected by that same system? Taylor is more suited to a wide open game, or at least a more up beat tempo. As for the article, well......, it's written by feces. There's a better than even chance that the truth lies somewhere in the opposite direction. Most GM's know what skills a player brings with them & thus, they realize when a player is in a system that doesn't fully utilize their skills. In my opinion, Taylor's contract & JVG's system are what might be hurting his & Howard's (less Taylor's contract) trade value. I'd almost be willing to bet any amount of money that both of those players will flourish once again, when they get into a system that fully utilizes their individual talents. I'm starting to get really tired of JVG's team. Under his coaching, this team is boring to watch. That's why it's so imperative that his teams win, & the Rockets aren't even doing that, yet. I hope they turn it around soon, or the players might start being able to hear themselves whisper.
He really isn't that good offensively. He has a decent jumper at times, but that is really it. There aren't many teams in the market for a PF who can't do anything but hit open jumpers, refuses to play defense, rebound, and pass the ball. Oh ya, he has a bad contract too. Oh ya, he also is a multiple offender of the NBA drug policy. What is there to like about this loser?
This is my feeling as well. JVG's system is really hurting the players skills and he is not utilizing them to the best of their abilities.
All of us believe that his system hurts players and their performance, but if you look back at Mo's performance since he has been here except the injury year, he hasn't really done much for a PF that makes as much money as he does. That's the problem.
but to be a successful team the rockets don't need Mo's scoring, we need a Power Forward to rebound and defend
I believe that ever since he injured his achilles tendon he has never been the same. I remember he used to dunk on people while he was with the clippers. And since that injury he hasn't been the same player as he used to be.
