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How long will Ming stand for being a bench warmer?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by forenzi, Nov 10, 2002.

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  1. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    I agree with you here pipdagimp. I wish someone would address this point. I remember everyone talking about Yao in the high post and he hasn't done it at all this year, in fact everyone seems to stop moving and just watch whenever Yao gets the ball in the low post. No cutters, or backdoor passes. I don't get it.:confused:
     
  2. gotoloveit2

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    I totally accept that we need to bring him in slowly. Give him times to adjust and he needs some rest too. But please stop using the phrase "EARN his miunutes". One could not earn if you are on the bench 90% of the time. Even when he was in the game, he only got limited touches of the ball. He has shown he could play professional and international basketball. There are differences in the style of basketball played here, but its not comparing apple to orange. You still need to dribble and shoot the same damn ball. Many aspects of the game are the same anywhere. To me, Yao needs to "WAIT" for his minutes simpily because of the reasons I stated above and our offenses are still very much guard-oriented. This could be Rudy's design or our guards' selfish plays, or both. If everyone is health, we could probably make it to the playoff. But without a strong center, no way we could win a championship. All you SF lovers can dream all you want , without big time involvement of Yao now or in the near future, no champion ringS for sure. Our guards will get their 25-30+ games, maybe sell a lot of shoes, but NO RING.
     
  3. jlaw

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    You have a point. But I don't think this issue is undermined in the coaching staff. Unfortunatley, there are other problems they need to deal with all at the same time.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    GOTO,

    He would EARN his minutes by playing tough defense (which he isn't), or by being a rebounding machine (which he hasn't), or by shutting down the lane by blocking shots (which he has not done either)...

    There are plenty of ways to EARN your minutes without touching the ball......Heck....(and I choke when I say this..)...

    LOOK AT CATO !!!

    DaDakota
     
  5. Easy

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    If you listen to Kwame Brown, he said that last year he was "robotic." When the play was broken, he didn't know what to do. Rookies don't know how to react to the flow of the game. That's why I think they should run plays specifically designed for Ming when he is in, so that he won't "get lost." He has the skills to execute a play IF he knows what he is expected to do.
     
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    That's good to hear.



    That's Great to hear.



    No doubt about it.
    I'd make that bet too(your salary of course).


    Now, there's only two questions Les/Carroll needs to ask him.

    1. Are you busy?

    2. Do you make housecalls?
     
  7. RNuss02

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    Yao hasn't shown the ability to stay in a game for up to 20 or 30 minutes, as of yet, because of his foul problem.
     
  8. verse

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    spit or swallow?

    :rolleyes:
     
  9. Nomar

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    Wouldn't know, but just go with you gut feeling. You'll do fine.
     
  10. GAKF

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    I think you guys have said enough about YAO Ming. OK, here I just want to mention one point:

    Go to check the articles about Yao Ming when Yao Ming played the exhibition game against Team USA before the WBC. At that time he got a lot of praises from the stars on Team USA. Yao was selected as the Center in the ALL WBC TEAM. Jermane O'neal and Ben Wallace were not.

    He played very well at that time. Why? He can get more touches in each game, and he can play more minutes in each game.

    Don't say Yao has to EARN his minutes. What I want to say here is your Rockets Guards suck big time. They are the most selfish backcourts in the NBA. When I watched your game against SuperSonics, I realize how selfish your guards were. SuperSonics played team ball, but ... I was really sick of watching the Cat went for one on one.

    With the CAT on your Rockets team, your Rockets will never get a title. Mark my words down. I said it!!!
     
  11. verse

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    thank you nostradamus. now please go back to wherever you came from.
     
  12. DavidS

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    ABSOLUTELY!!! :)

    There are special drills that a trainer will put you through that are similar
    to what speed skaters do. But it's done without the ice :). And your
    stationary.

    Those drills are extremely intense! It's like doing power skating
    windsprints. A trainer watches you when you are doing them too. No
    slacking! It develops fast-twitch muscles!

    There's also weight training that targets special muscles.
     
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    Reminder:

    Does anyone remember Cato in his 1st and 2nd years with the Rockets???
    He would always get fouls in his first minute on the court.

    His was a bad technique. Speed and timing.

    Notice that most good blocks are done a spit second after the shooter
    jumps. Not at the same time. Yao (and Cato used to) jumps
    at the same time: FOUL!

    But you wont be able to jump a split second after if you are slow
    and have bad timing. That takes time to develop.

    BLOCK THE BALL, not the PLAYER!
     
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    Did Rudy T. promise Ming's former team that he will have a chance a the Rookie of the Year. I am not saying that he's making a great contribution but time and paaing him the ball at the right times can imporve.
     
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    Cato has improved and one of the biggest first year busts Kandi man has improved amazingly................ MING WILL BE DA MAN
     
  17. MadMax

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    I'm not as concerned with Ming's feelings on this as I am the Chinese government's....we'll see how patient they are with this.
     
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    I don't it's just about Ming getting more minutes. If Ming knew the rotations on defense, and the plays on offense, and looked confident out on the court, then it would be a matter of more minutes to help him learn.

    However leaving the poor guy out there when he has no clue what's going on, or where he has to be, while his opponents take him to school at both ends of the court, does not build confidence.

    Becoming comfortable and confident with the NBA, and the Rockets system, by watching and practicing with his teammates will be a much better confidence builder than being abused up and down the court.
     
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    Well, I really don't buy the argument that Yao Ming will not improve with more playing time.

    Even Shawn Bradley has played so well recently with more playing time in Dallas. He is a big part of the Dallas story since he is on the starting lineup. Like tonight, he has already had 3-3 and ten rebounds in 18 minutes of play.

    I think Yao Ming will improve quickly when he spends more time off the bench.

    :)
     
  20. DavidS

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    Bradley spent many hours in the gym this past off-season. There was
    a story about it on NBATV.

    That's the only reason that Cuban gave him another chance.
     

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