Just because two players have the same build does not mean they are the same player. Eddie can be better than Jermaine, the problem with today's NBA is that we dont let players develop and gain their own originality. There is only one Dream, One Michael, One Barkley, Bird, so on... Let these guys define their own style
Three bad mistakes BARKLEY,PIPPIN and RICE!!!!!!! NO MORE HAS BEENS PLEASE!!! (If you dont know why Barkley was bad for the Rox) It caused the begining of the end for the Dream. Lets put all of this in the past, where it belongs! The New Rockets Team has been put together by CD and Rudy T. It is in effect Rudys Team. The NBA Careers of Francis,Mobley,Griffin,Nachbar, Yao Ming,Thomas,Collier,Morris,Brown,Maddox and Torres all start with Coach Rudy T. The Team has been selected and is being built by, in the main, Rudy Guys. Who else is going to develop this Team,add on Taylor,Rice and Norris and we have RUDYBALL all the way to the Championships. The Coach has a complete understanding of the Game and his Team Components. Most of the complainers have little empathy with the life and the emotions of an NBA Coach. They should have more humility and show more respect for the Guy who has rebuilt our Team in record time! Yes! Just you wait and see!!
You are a fool too, the guy was picked b/c he made ONE shot in the tourney That was a throw in, I am quite certain the deal would have gotten done with another player, it SURELY would not have been a hang up, the deal would have been done Learn to read genius, I said "I do not think (EVEN IN HINDSIGHT) not taking Lewis was bad ", I am stating that I WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN HIM THEN EITHER ... HOMER Thomas = young 5 with touch and he rebounds EG was just drafted, no need to spend 7mil per yr avaerage for a guy who gives you less than the guy you have on your team and potentially less than the draft pick you just aquired. AND OH BY THE WAY he does not play D and is on a team that lacks just that. 49 mil wasted. that's b/c you are blind Is he 7 times as good??? On a successful team, moochie will not be a major factor. Backup point guards are not worth 3.5 mil. You have to make moves that leave you room to move with the cap. he was a CBA player for a reason. Give those guys more minutes and see what happens. That is money that could have been possibly used to go after more of a need. You are a fool to think that was the way to go. If you admit that "he would be rewarded down the road...." a) its a foolish promise b) it is a violation of the NBA rules We did not come out ahead, we would have come out ahead if we would have said "walk, we are using the money on a player or players we need. That was a terrible move. With that money you could have lured a mature better Lewis this year. As it stands, we will not be able to do anything with that cap slot b/c as soon as he drops off the books, Francis' deal will be in full swing. That was terrible any way you look at it "Never underestimate the heart of a champion" - Rudy 1993 9 years ago, if the team is run the way you like it (status quo) you will be waiting a lot longer than that to even get a sniff of a championship
<blockquote>Originally posted by toner Name one player in the league that has a problem scoring on Cat?? </blockquote> Did you say name one player? How about three stars? Mr All-Star Wally's score was doubled by Mobley twice and Wally shot only 46% against him versus 51% vs the league. Mobley torched him for 54%. Wally did not outscore him. Jason Terry could only get 12ppg against him..and yes, Mobley guarded Terry. Mobley doubled his score at 23.5ppg Mobley scored 10 more ppg against Finley...2001 all-star..Finley scored 5ppg under his average at 38%
i don't have time right now, but i'd bet if you look up his stats vs. vince carter, mobley did pretty damn well again! mobes gets no props, i swear.
You have it Right Yetti.....I see Rudy T as the heart and soul of the Rockets when anyone talks Rockets They are talking Rudy T I know Les owns the team but Les differs the BasketBall decison to Rudy and if you look over the time that Les has been the owner of this team how many teams have Won the whole show and then gone to the bottom of the pit only to be posed for greatness in such time To me that says Les has all the trust in the world in Rudy T I Firmly belive Rudy T is the BEST coach in the game BAR NONE So this I say Rudy is the coach of this team till he quits BasketBall OR Les sells the team.. ....
Carter torched the Rockets. Mobley scored his average. Mobley has outplayed him in the 4th Quarter in previous years, though. Iverson had that ridiculous in the "zone" game, as well. Kobe has trouble getting around Mobley to the hole, but he still gets his points. Sprewell has trouble attacking against Mobley, but he runs Mobley silly around a bunch of picks, which is what Wash did with Hamilton, too. I've seen Stackhouse have a lot of trouble getting around Mobley, too.
I like him, he is a good player, I said it before I WOULD NOT trade hime unless it allowed me to unload Mo, Cato, or Moochie and for the right player in return. That won't happen so what I would then do is play him as you did Sam. Bring him off the bench but give him the majority of the minutes. Think of this: Ming EG or Taylor Rice or Boki Tito or Oscar Francis Let Steve get Ming & EG in the flow of things early, then 4-5 min into the game bring in Cat and run or shoot them into the ground and play his 35 min. All you want from you starting 2 is to help out on D and not be a liability. That would make us a deeper team and would minimize the time Moochie runs point and Steve plays 2 to get Mobley his rest.
I think in regards to the S. Anderson trade, the Rockets had to do it to maintain their reputation as a honorable team. Just suppose that S. Anderson did sign for less money for a raise down the road. That may be against the rules but that's done all the time (just don't put it in writing!). Now if the Rockets just let S. Anderson walk, then word of mouth will hurt the Rockets in the future. Same deal with Mo Taylor, if the Rockets worked on a handshake promise, then it's got to be honored. Besides, Rice might be good this season, no one knows yet. And Mo Taylor might actually be worth the money considering all the other PFs in the league who are any good. Bottom Line, Rudy is doing fine and as long as Ming develops at a good pace, the Rockets will make the playoffs. In fact, with a healed and determined Stevie (see other ESPN article), and a better Eddie, the Rockets will be pretty good this year. You don't have to be homer to think the Rockets improved a lot this off season.
Well I am not here to change anybody's mind and you certainly have every right to your opinion. I was just showing you the thought process behind certain moves. Since you are new here I have a bit of advice for you. Someone that resorts to name-calling is showing that they do not have much of an arguement. Since you have no facts or logic to back up your opinion, I will have to presume that you are want nothing more than to stir the pot and cause trouble. No problem if that is what you want but I will waste no more time with you. If you want to have an intelligent conversation about the Rockets or Rudy, I will glad to do so but to come to the BBS and call people fools because they support their team and offer nothing more than more retoric seems a bit trollish.
Without a doubt, they are in improved team, and they made huge strides this offseason, I just see moves that were made in the past and I think we ALL wondered what they were thinking that are preventing us from being mentioned in the same breath as the Kings. They will be improved, I just think they have far too much dead weight and Rudy needs to focus more on the coaching side of things. Hey, sorry if you took it that way, I am not speaking about you, as I do not know you. I guess the best way to put it is that making promises like that to a player is a foolish thing to do as you do not know what a player will do in the future or if he will even be healthy. Hopefully the apology is accepted. Let me ask you this, in the case of Shandon, Mo, Joe Smith or any player that had an agreement similar, IF that player blows out a knee, is out the entire season after surgery and comes back just prior to the season you promised that contract, does the team honor that "handshake"?
I will accept your apology if you understand that you were talking to me by calling me a fool for thinking the way I was thinking. But enough of that... Any promise made to SA was never placed in a contract nor written in any format hence it was not in violation of league rules. The T-Wolves were dumb enough to place the agreement in a written contract and got caught red-handed. As for your hypothetical, no I would not feel bound by any "handshake deal" if injured. However I would make every attempt to help the rehab of the hypothetical player and at least give a chance to make the team when he was healthy again. Also , in response to your problems with Rudy and CD, I can understand your feelings and not everybody is perfect but what alternatives are there? They ( Rudy & CD) have assembled a good amount of talent and are ready to make a run. They have rebuilt a possible championship team faster than most franchises that fall on hardtimes after making a run. The Bulls have yet to recover, the Pistons have just started to show signs of life after almost 15-20 years, the Celtics are just now getting back to playing championship ball after 15 or so years. If it weren't for Shaq, LA would still be floundering. The Rocket have rebuilt the team completely in less than 5-8 years and still managed to make the playoffs a few times during the rebuilting process. They had the best record of any non-playoff team in the history of the NBA( with marginal talent as well ). Just wait and taste the dinner before you fire the cooks ( Rudy and CD).
what is the thread another cat and steve thread or one on Rudy T its very misleading to have it say something about Rudy T and then have all this crap about Cat and Steve I dont think you know S**T about BasketBall toner.......
It is a thread about Rudy, and with in the conversation, I gave an opinion as to how I think we could optimize the productivity of the team and the players on it by changing the rotation (which is associated with the coaching angle). I tell you what, I am feeling pretty nice today copilot, so I will give you a little tip, OK? Now when you are watching TV and you don't like a show, you change the channel. I liken that to threads this way, if you do not like the direction its going or what the topics are, go to another one. It will help prevent you from getting so worked up. That one is free next time there will be a fee. ;-)
Hey your the dumbF*** here you have no clue about basketball players or this team I think you must be a very envious LA fan that see your team losing real soon to the Rockets and whats even worst to you is Rudy built this team from ground up he didnt have to buy it like your LA team did ...OR you just love Phil and the way he walks in on a team that has the best already there and doesnt have to do anything but pet egos UNLIKE the way it is in a working town where we WORK for what we get and not have it laid in our laps So if you think you are going to Charge me just go ahead and stick up your a$$ and that will be enuff payment for me....
I love this site! Rudy's drinking buddies are offended! I'm 19 forever BBob. I've seen 100 Bull games in Jordan's heyday. Was in the locker room when Ice Mike was crying after the first championship in LA. Check SportsCenter! Been a Rocket supporter since Mo, Slick Watts and Jackie Dorsey. Old enough 4 U? Always taunted Ice that they couldn't beat the Rox in the Finals. Rockets went 5-1 during the Bulls first 3peat. My prayer was Ice & Clyde to go head up in the Finals with Dream on his side. Rox sent invite to Bulls and Orlando showed. Swept! Vernon was one of the few who wasn't scared of Ice. I was at Game in Chi when he confronted Ice. Ice was scared Maxwell would coldcock him. Toner thanks for your stand. Rudy is great at PR. ESPN said they want to go out for a Drink with Rudy. Not that he is a great coach. Talk to Shandon in ATL this weekend. A earful for sure. Saw him in Vegas when he was a FA. I pitched the Rox. I apologized to him for my folly. The Sloan vs Rudy on coaching philosophy is huge! Run 1 play where 5 guys are moving and I will be proud. Rudy may get queasy and hurl with all of the motion on the court. The NBA was tired of RudyBall! The players respect Rudy because they run the team and do what they want! This site wouldn't give COY Don Chaney 8 years to turn this around!
In through you nose... now out through your mouth. Its ok copilot, don't get all worked up. I guess they would never let you become "pilot" b/c you seem to have a wee bit of a temper problem. By the way, I am a native Houstonian, only lived away from the city for 4 years (while I was getting my education which you seem to lack), so you truly wasted your time on that LA tangent. Sounds to me like you are doing all of us real Rocket fans an injustice pawning everything off on LA makes it seem like YOU have an inferiority complex. Again, in through you nose... now out through your mouth. You are pushing your luck; these counseling sessions usually cost a pretty penny. You may have the Heart of a Champion, but you have the mouth of a sailor!
Just sticking to the original topic. The Rockets should go in another coaching direction if (a healthy Rockets team ) the Rockets don't vastly improve this season. If the organization feel some sort of obligation with Rudy, them give him another job, just don't hold the team back to spare Rudy feelings.
There was once a team back in '95 that had so many injuries that its starting lineup only played 35 regular season games together. In spite of that fact the team not only made the playoff, but won a championship. The coach of that team also had the ability to see the talents of player such as Horry (passed on Minor), Cassell, Harrington and Dickerson. I think you would also have to look at what position we were picking in also, all the picks that we were getting were late in the first after all the obvious talent had been picked. Remember last year, they were the first to start talking about Gasol. I KNOW that Rudy and Co. have made mistakes, but what person does not. I will say this, look at the draft positions that other rebuilding teams have had (see Clippers, Grizzlies, Golden State, ect.). We have not had to endure anything close to what these franchises have. I think we should reserve judgement until we see what happens with a healthy team.
The injury situation was a bit over blown. The only injury that really hurt the Rox last year was the time that Francis missed. No one expected much out of Rice as he had played very little (due to injury) for the previous year and a half, and don't forget, he was injured when he came here Rice could have had his leg amputated and they still would have made that trade (they accepted the trade just to get out from the handshake Shandon deal). As far as the Taylor injury, on the surface that seems large, but with the play they got out of KT & EG, I think we would all agree that they came out ahead. We all know what EG did, and Thomas really showed alot on the defensive end. '01-02 Thomas 14.1 ppg 7.2 reb '00-01 Taylor 13.0 ppg 5.5 reb
