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How long do you plan to wear a mask?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TWS1986, Mar 5, 2021.

  1. Blake

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    As long as it keeps people comfortable. Masks have become a stupid symbol of a some sort of oppression of civil liberties when in reality wearing one is barely noticeable
     
  2. Os Trigonum

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    not when you talk for a living and wear glasses.
     
  3. Blake

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    Fair point!
     
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  4. ThatBoyNick

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    Pondering the potential advocation for additional unnecessary death and disease to unfog the glasses lmao that's a good one
     
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  5. Os Trigonum

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    fully vaccinated
     
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  6. Os Trigonum

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    and why should the fully vaccinated worry about OTHER peoples’ psychological “comfort” while their own physical comfort is ignored, downplayed, or discounted?
     
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  7. ThatBoyNick

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    I just genuinely found that idea to be funny, I wasn't trying to be personal

    The data on whether vaccinated people can spread the virus will be major, if the odds for spread is significantly lower, I'd agree you should be excused from needing a mask at a place like work if vaccinated.

    But that would probably require you proving your vaxed to your work place, perhaps a hairy conundrum in your mind idk.
     
  8. Os Trigonum

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    already done that
     
  9. ThatBoyNick

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    I wasn't saying that as **** talk it's a legitimate personal choice to share info like that (or, it should be IMO), for most people no big deal but, I know some take privacy very seriously.
     
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  10. Os Trigonum

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    my wife has had to help write the policy for the organization and there are still some real sticking points about what employers can and cannot do in terms of employment law. not an easy situation for anyone involved
     
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  11. Deckard

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    I intend to wear the damn things until the CDC says it’s OK for people like me to stop. So probably forever. I hate them. I don’t know anyone who “likes” them. They are better than the alternative. What drives me crazy is my reading glasses fogging up! I have 20-20 vision for distance, thanks to the brilliant guy who did my cataract surgery.

    Prior the Plague, I enjoyed having lunch alone a couple of times a week, inhaling a novel while I had something tasty at a local eatery. The waitresses greeted me with a smile, bringing my favorite libation before I asked for it. I’ve spent the last year not having that small pleasure and really look forward to resuming it.

    The pub downtown where our team played trivia every week for years is closed for good. If the Plague was a replicant, I’d blast it.
     
  12. TWS1986

    TWS1986 SPX '05, UH' 19

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    I'd say for a good while longer. I just got the 2nd shot yesterday, had some mild side effects, and should be good to go around the 17th.
     
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  13. TWS1986

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    Went to Cracker Barrel over the weekend. A few ignorant ****s there, but generally I'm pretty proud of most Houstonians wearing their masks. The usual suspects weren't wearing them, so no big surprise there. @IBTL
     
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  14. ROCKSS

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    Agreed, most everywhere I go people are wearing them, its not that big of a deal, it sucks but so what. Of course you always have to have a few knuckleheads who wont do it but I am surprisingly happy with what I see
     
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  15. Os Trigonum

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    "The left's pandemic purity culture":

    https://theweek.com/articles/975858/lefts-pandemic-purity-culture

    excerpt:

    . . . So now we come to the pandemic and, soon, its conclusion. There's "a small but loud and absolutely real subset of people," proposes a viral tweet from writer Lauren L. Walker, "who don't want the pandemic to end because they like being the best at following The Rules."



    This strikes me as overstated — I suspect the desire Walker describes will, for the vast majority, dissolve rapidly once true normalcy is on offer. But there's something true in her quip. Even if only temporary, it's a pandemic-time impulse of left purity culture.

    The public health measures we've taken to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 are, after all, rules. They're rules significantly enforced by community judgment and surveillance, and in masks we even have a candidate for a physical, public signifier of virtue. I've been a vocalmask proponent, but, as sociologist Zeynep Tufekci has argued in a larger discussion of polarization, they've also become something more than a useful public health tool.

    "It's pretty clear that [masks have] become a talisman of sorts, essentially signaling belonging in a tribe," Tufekci wrote earlier this month. "Now I get lectured for not talking about masks, even if the article is about vaccination, and people openly declare that they will continue to double-mask for a year even after being fully vaccinated — and for saying that on social media, they receive many likes and retweets."

    But you don't need to wear two masks for a year after vaccination, months past the point when vaccines will be accessible to all who want them. That's not care and justice; it's performance of purity per left purity culture.

    Likewise, using a masked photo as a profile picture on social media accomplishes nothing for public health. Maybe, early on, before mask mandates or knowledge of the usefulness of masks were widespread, maybe then such a photo set a good example. At this point, it reads as performance. Or think of the stories — you've likely heard some, but here's one — of people yelling at strangers for going without a mask during outdoor exercise in which the transmission risk is extremely low. That too is a purity culture performance. It's that "more and more radical lifestyle" Beck characterized where you can't do anything less "without contaminating yourself."

    In the pandemic, of course, literal contamination is in view. But then, a purity culture is often on guard against entirely real risks and wrongs. Among the aims of conservative purity culture was protecting children from STDs, teenage pregnancy, heartbreak, and sexual assault. Just as it's possible to promote a traditional Christian sexual ethic without the trappings of purity culture, so it's possible to be responsible about public health in this pandemic without left purity culture moves like post-vaccination double masking through the spring of 2022.

    Purity cultures, Beck observes, are exhausting and an assailant of joy. But joy is coming! This will end, and soon. We can and should look forward to that without pandemic purity culture getting in the way.

     
  16. Xerobull

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    This is so ironic. I see the GOP is the most in-the-box, follow-the-rules subset in America.
     
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    Vaccinated, you are well protected from death or severe illness. Want to prevent infection and mild sickness - up your masking game. N95, KN95, KF94 or ...

    I used to think that N95 (the best) and KN95/KF94 (2nd to N95) were not as comfortable or harder to breathe in. Now that I have tried many of them, that was an incorrect assumption. Reading more about it, it makes sense. The N95 better filtering isn't due to thicker or denser material (hence harder to breathe in) but the type of material and its property. This higher quality filtering is as easy or in some cases better than surgical or cloth masks. Everyone should be going for these and find one that fits well (you don't want huge air gaps at your chin or elsewhere).

    Note that the US only approve N95 for adult. If you want kid sized *approved* mask, your only choice is KF94 (Korean standard) or KN95 (Chinese standard). KF94 was specifically designed for the public to control the pandemic by the Korean years ago. And of course, right from the start, everyone in S.Korea wears one (SK death rate has been about 1/20th to 1/50th of the US throughout).

    I'll add: better filtering means reduced viral particles which give your immune system a better chance at killing off the intruders when they make it through. There is no such thing as 100% filtering.
     
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  19. SuraGotMadHops

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    I quit wearing masks way back in April once I got my second dose vax. I only wear them on airplanes due to the requirement. I respect the house rules wherever I go, so if a place still requires masks to enter, I comply, but I stopped voluntarily wearing them a long time ago. I'm happy.
     
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  20. tinman

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    When I’m done beating up these woke jokers on the D&D
    I go back to being Bruce Wayne
     

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