This is way too over complicated. If you dont have the vaccine, continue to follow protocols. If you do have the vaccine, you're free to go naked. Just be advised you're still a serious risk to those in the high risk category who are not vaccinated.
Personally, I think you aren’t high risk to anyone (with any of the known variants). The vaccines have held up great. But you might be at a risk of catching a new variant yet to come and of spreading it. The other risk is that if 100m stop wearing mask in public, everyone else (not yet vaccinated) might just follow. Other than that, it’s the cdc, what do you expect ? But I do appreciate the through complications. I did need the complication once when I needed to figure out treatment options and impact to vaccination schedule.
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"Dr. Fauci, Tear Off These Masks": https://www.wsj.com/articles/dr-fauci-tear-off-these-masks-11617387381?mod=hp_opin_pos_2 Dr. Fauci, Tear Off These Masks If the epidemic continues on its current course, it will be safe to uncover your face by Memorial Day. By Nicole Saphier April 2, 2021 2:16 pm ET When will it be safe to shop at a grocery store or show up at the office without wearing a mask? Sooner than most experts are willing to admit. If the coronavirus epidemic in the U.S. continues on its current trajectory, the need for masks outside particular local outbreak areas will pass in a matter of weeks. One way to think about the problem is by analogy to seasonal influenza. Hardly anybody wears a mask in ordinary settings to protect against the flu, and no one is required to do so. The worst flu seasons of recent years saw an average of 220 deaths a day nationwide. The seven-day moving average for Covid-19 daily deaths hovers around 900, still considerably worse. But that’s a 78% reduction since January, and the trends are favorable almost everywhere in the country. When the 14-day rolling average of daily Covid deaths has come down below flu level, which may happen within the next month or two, we should adjust our thinking about the coronavirus accordingly. Vaccination is the main reason for the sharp decline in Covid cases and deaths. Some three million shots are being administered each day, and once immunity has kicked in, the vaccinated are at negligible risk of being infected, never mind spreading infection. If you’ve been vaccinated, there’s almost no direct safety benefit—to yourself or others—of wearing a mask. You still have to do so only because immunity is invisible. The expectation or requirement of mask-wearing is impracticable to impose only on those who are vulnerable or may be dangerous. At some point, however, herd immunity is achieved: Enough of the population is immune to make the risk of infection minimal in the population as a whole. Anthony Fauci puts the threshold for herd immunity at full vaccination of 85% of the U.S. population, including children. Since the vaccine has been authorized only for patients 16 and older and not all adults are willing to accept it, Dr. Fauci’s goal almost certainly won’t be reached for another year, if ever. The current figure is only 17% of total population. Dr. Fauci’s benchmark is unreasonably high. He ignores that many unvaccinated Americans—perhaps as many as 120 million, as seroprevalence studies suggest true incidence levels to be three to 20 times captured infections—have immunity owing to prior infection. A recent large-scale Danish study finds that prior infection provides approximately 80% protection to patients younger than 65 and 47% protection to those older. That difference is why it’s important to prioritize the elderly for vaccination, as U.S. authorities have done. Because of this combination of factors, we will likely surpass 50% combined immunity within the next week or two. A single dose of either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccine has been shown to confer 80% immunity after two weeks according to recent Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data on healthcare workers. A British study showed people who were immunized after infection had 99% protection after a single dose. This means any of the 99 million Americans—38% of adults—who have received at least one dose may be sufficiently protected. At the current pace, 50% of the entire population could receive a single shot by the third week of April if efforts focus on the unvaccinated instead of those who’ve already had one shot. If combined with continued lower rates of infection and death, I believe that would be enough to justify an end to mask-wearing outside high-risk settings. We are much closer to protective immunity than some public-health officials acknowledge—or perhaps want to acknowledge. Precisely how close is impossible to tell, in part because officials have recommended getting the vaccine regardless of prior immunity and haven’t kept track of whether people receiving the vaccine already had a documented infection or presence of antibodies conferring probable natural immunity. They also are administering second doses rather than maximizing the number of people vaccinated, despite the data showing the efficacy of a single dose and the U.K.’s impressive success with the delayed-booster approach. A final factor is the supply of vaccines. In addition to protecting the vulnerable, universal masking salves the fears of those who are at risk of infection. Once vaccines are plentiful enough that any adult who wants one can easily get it, the calculus changes. If you’re unable to get vaccinated, it’s reasonable to expect others to accept infringements on their freedom as a precaution. Not if you refuse to get vaccinated. Public-health officials and politicians risk a public rebellion if they don’t start taking common sense into account and instead persist in labeling anyone who questions their decrees “antiscience.” After more than a year of restrictions, they should prioritize getting back to normal. That means public-health agencies need to generate accurate benchmarks of progress—including natural immunity as well as vaccinations—and to be open to modifying their approach, including by relaxing restrictions that have proved ineffective or outlived their usefulness. Universal masking isn’t in that category yet, but it will be soon. I believe it will probably be safe to end mask mandates by the end of April, but Memorial Day weekend is a more realistic target. Until then, even if you’ve been vaccinated, you’ll have to wear a mask when you’re indoors in public. Dr. Saphier is a physician at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, an assistant professor at Weill Cornell Medical College, and author of “Panic Attack.”
I'm still going to trust the experts and will wear it until my state's policy changes to say wearing mask are unnecessary. In the future though if I get sick with something I'm going to wear a mask to not spread it.
When enough credible people do it that I can't easily point out the racist Trump voters or garden variety conspiracy dipsticks.
As a fully vaccinated fellow - I want to show my fellow neighbors and humans that I care for their existence and health, thus I will wear a mask...... DD
You're in NY, do you think if the virus continues its current trajectory in your very own 4th most populous state in the country, that it would be advisable for the public to stop wearing masks "in a matter of weeks"? The country's current trajectory is pointing up. If the spike that's hitting the east spreads throughout the country, and looking at the stats and maps...it is (deaths have increased in NY, Michigan, Florida, and others), then this seems like a pretty dangerous suggestion. We are currently at 30% of the population with at least 1 shot, Isreal was at 45% of the population with 1 shot during its peak outbreak. 2 months is a very long time for things to change in terms of this virus(for better or worse), but this take seems really optimistic at best, or a dangerous immoral, and dishonest piece at worst.
I saw who wrote the piece before I commented I actually remembered the name from this hot take https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...arren-specialist-sacrifice-nicole-saphier.amp Individual doctors can have all sorts of opinions, from anti vaccine, to anti mask, they can be communist supporters, they can be Trump supporters. If you can find me an actual consensus of immunologist or virologist or relevant experts who believe that we should stop wearing masks within 2 months or “weeks” whatever that means, that would be interesting
Don’t, I’m an idiot. But one that can see that cases in America are empirically trending upwards at least. My suggestion, as one idiot to another, is maybe share what the current relevant consensus of experts are saying about mask use over a hot take from an individual in a relatively unrelated field While thinking about it all, I wonder what the Swedish economics professor recommends
Honestly, I wouldn't mind wearing a facemask even if it was completely safe to go without one. The only negative I can think of, is that summer is about to be upon us, so it's going to get hot. But we've already been through a summer season with a mask mandate, so it's not a brand new situation or anything.
related "How 6 feet became 3: Meet an ER doctor behind the research showing kids are still safe in school with new social-distancing standard": https://www.marketwatch.com/story/h...ncing-standard-11617281412?mod=hp_minor_pos19
People in Asia still wore masks pre-covid because of their experience with SARS. I would keep wearing it until herd immunity is reached, but I get if you're outdoors and in sweltering heat to not wear it. Yes, it's a matter of not trusting people who don't wear masks at their word of being vaccinated, but until 70% are sufficiently vaccinated, I'd rather be inconvenienced and have everyone wear a mask than risk a mouthbreather spread their **** indoors.
