How is Tilman Fertitta ownership different than Les Alexander ownership?

Elon Musk can sneeze and he just made more money than Les and Tilman combined ..for their entire lifetime

 

If that's mediocrity... I'm gonna love to hear what this will be called.


******* shitposters I swear

 

The biggest difference? Alexander understood Tilmans philosophy. Les understood what it meant to shut up and listen.

If you take a few minutes and listen to a few of Tilmans interviews, you should understand why this team will never go anywhere under this ownership. Good GMs and coaches are not going to want to work for this jackasshole.

 

This - also :

Tillman is a fameball who wants to be the center of attention;

puts his kids in charge of basketball operations; and


Is highly leveraged to finance the Rockets and is way more reliant on the Rockets as a source of income than Les.

I didn't love Les. He picked his spots more. Tillman is always visible. On tv, at the White House begging for $$$, on the mural,etc.

Taking delivery on his 160 million dollar mega yacht - the SS LT Savings - the same day the team implodes and heads to lotto land is like peak Tillman.

 

This. At least with Les we knew his intentions, probably because he didn’t have a “I’m a billionaire!” title to cling onto. Fertitta has been a hypocrite every single time since he’s owned the Rockets.

 

Tilman wrote a book called “shut up and listen” while running his 10 cent margin business on 400M of debt. He then tried to tap equity markets and failed miserably. He also cuts costs religiously in all of his businesses and has extremely high staff turnover.

He is a product of an extremely friendly interest rate environment, historically bad levels of wage growth, and the greatest stock market boom of all time, yet he really believes it was his brilliance that got him to where he was, rather than nearly pure luck.

 

They were both cheap.

 

This is the thing - Tilman wants everything on the cheap - and you get what you pay for.

 

Les Alexander won two championship at the start, which earned him a ton of good will even though he had little to do with the first one. He took a chance on entrusting Daryl Morey to run his team and it paid off.

Fertitta inherited what was widely considered one of the best run organizations in the league, and now would probably be viewed as one of the worst. I don’t believe it’s all his fault. I’m willing to wait and see if he and the people he hires can steer this team back to contender status over the next 5 years.

 

Les has less debt than Tilman has.
Les went on the court to shout at the refs during a playoff game.
Les > Tilman

 

The difference is that certain people hate Fertitta for non-basketball reasons so they whine about the least charitable interpretation of anything he does or is perceived to have done.

Hopefully those crazy kids get tired of screeching into the void one day and calm down.

 

Les cared about profit just as much as Tilman.
If Tilman had Yao, we would see the Golden Nugget in Macau and Yao Ming promoting Rainforest Cafe and Kemah.
Les always wanted a star for the money like Barkley and Tmac to get TV coverage.
Let’s not forget that Barkley kept accusing Les for stiffing him his money for taking the lower salary to get Pippen.

the difference between Les and Tilman besides personality ? Les had Yao. Tilman has to pinch pennies to keep afloat. Les had China money before anyone else. He sold the team after getting Chris Paul. Just to raise the value of the team

 

Every restaurant has high turnover....have you ever worked in the industry? And you do know that “shut up and listen” is not about listening to HIM? I see this constantly used as an insult and it’s kind of embarrassing to see it misfire over and over.

I think a lot of you just hate rich people and hate rich people that don’t spend their money on the things that you want even more. It’s kind of petty and sad. You do realize that the vast majority of owners don’t spend max money every year? It’s still a business. Only balmer and the Russian guy can afford to spend all the money all the time. None of you would employ these tactics if it was your business. And that’s fine. But when you attack the man personally because he won’t spend all his money or because the world is in a financial crisis and you’re continuing to chastise him for not spending? How oblivious are you?

 

Great read and an awesome explanation of why Tilman is a terrible owner. Every Tilman fan needs to read this and open their eyes to how terrible his influence has been and how he destroyed an elite 65 win team.

 

This board hates anyone wealthy in general I have come to find.

 

Unless they are celebrities “down with the cause” (in public statements)

 

Then why didn't he shut up and listen to the coaches, his GM, the analytics staff and not trade away CP3 and the Rockets future on a player that didn't fit?

I'm tired of everyone just thinking people don't like Tilman because he is a douchey business man. No, it's because his involvement and dumb business philosophy led us to lose our GM, our coaches, and all the players that made up a 65 win team while mortgaging the future away.

 

Because his star player wanted him gone?

 

He’s made plenty of mistakes (literally ever team in every league has). You’re taking gambles on players development, injuries, luck w matchups and refs, etc. he got unlucky w chris paul situation. Which btw — if chris went to Okc playing like he did in year two w us? He wouldn’t be in the league still (absent his contract). We took a gamble that what we saw was what we were gonna get for the future w chris and harden wanted Westbrook.


I hated that trade but I fully understand the risk we took and why we took it.

 

Want to feel disgust?

Look at what we got for the CP3 & Harden combined.

In exchange for those two guys, netted, we got John Wall, and expiring Oladipo, a pick swap and 2 first round picks?

Does that seem like a good deal?