1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

How High Texas DE Brian Orakpo Going To Go?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by astros148, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,532
    Likes Received:
    5,535
    this perspective is so removed from reality...

    schaub is 4th in the NFL is YPA, as is slaton in YPC; johnson is 3rd in YPG and walter is 19th.

    you're correct: turnovers are the offense's primary undoing. but any suggestion that this isn't a top flight offense, regardless of circumstances, is flat silly. not to mention: they've been blown out of, and thus faced prevent defenses, in exactly two games this year. 2 of 12, DD.
     
  2. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    I agree entirely.

    DD, I'm not sure how many games you've watched...but this team moves the ball really well. Like the run n shoot Oilers, they have red zone difficulties...but they move the ball up and down the field.
     
  3. moestavern19

    moestavern19 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 1999
    Messages:
    39,003
    Likes Received:
    3,641
    Orakpo most likely will be a Top 10 selection.

    Most of the preliminary mock drafts I've seen say so, and a lot of them have him being the first defensive player off the board.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    129,323
    Likes Received:
    39,868
    The point is that yes they can move the ball, but that they turn it over so often the Defense does not get a chance to rest.

    I actually do not think Houston is that far away from a playoff team, and when it switches it usually does so dramatically.

    To me, it is ALL about the turnovers on offense, you get rid of those, or limit them and everyone looks better including the defense.

    I will say this though, the defensive coordinator's game plans for the Texan's suck...they rely far too much on the D-line getting pressure on their own, sometimes you need to mix it up a bit and put some blitzes in there, or at least pretend like you are going to blitz to free up Mario....

    DD
     
    #44 DaDakota, Dec 11, 2008
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2008
  5. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,532
    Likes Received:
    5,535
    i think everyone currently breathing oxygen would agree about the offense. but from a defensive perspective, that's only a very small part of it - look at the jacksonville game as proof: no TOs but the defense still collapsed.

    it needs better players; it needs a better scheme; it needs better tacklers... the GB game was the first i can remember in a looooong time where the defense actually stepped up and made plays that secured a victory.
     
  6. RunninRaven

    RunninRaven Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2000
    Messages:
    15,271
    Likes Received:
    3,217
    Not to further derail this thread, but I've never understood the prevailing theory that we need to get MLB so we can move Demeco back to OLB. Sure, the guy was drafted as a OLB, but he really didn't play that well as an OLB in his rookie season. It wasn't until they started playing him at MLB that he really blossomed. Then our MLB that year got hurt (can't remember his name...Sam Cowart?) and Demeco never looked back. Sure he's learned and improved since then, but why does everyone think that he will suddenly be as dominant at OLB as he has been at MLB (sans this year when he is apparently playing injured)? Maybe I'm missing something, but I'd prefer not fix what ain't broke, as someone else mentioned. If we need to draft a LB, draft one for a position that is currently filled by someone that isn't performing. Although, personally, I think Adibi has shown enough promise that I am okay with this group of LBs going into next season (save for maybe some lower end FA grabs for depth, or a 5th-7th round rookie to develop). I want DBs and DE/DTs...and maybe a guard and/or center.
     
  7. wesnesked

    wesnesked Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2002
    Messages:
    934
    Likes Received:
    11
    Demeco is having his worse season as a pro. I think he's a little more hurt than in the past probably due to the amount of blocks he must shed to make plays. He's a little on the light side for a MLB. Imagine Patrick Willis(who we could have drafted instead of amobi) at MLB and demeco and adibi at the olb spots. Ray Maualuga could be that big mlb that makes big hits and makes Demeco more effective on the blitz and keeps him healthy.
     
  8. gucci888

    gucci888 Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    17,227
    Likes Received:
    6,573
    A little on the light side? DeMeco is the exact same size as Willis and is actually 5 lbs. heavier. Look at the other elite MLBs in the NFL, DeMeco is pretty much the prototypical MLB in terms of size. That's the least of my issues IMO.

    You're right in that DeMeco is having his worse season as a pro but that's not really saying a whole lot since he's slated to still get 110-120 tackles before the end of the season. But also look at the team's total tackles, it's way less than the previous 2 years, a lot of that can be contributed to the improvement on offense and being able to keep the defense off the field.

    As I've stated, Maualuga is a good prospect. But DeMeco was the defensive ROY, a pro-bowler, and the undisputed leader of the defense.
     
  9. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,532
    Likes Received:
    5,535
    demeco doesn't seem to be around the ball as much as in year's part - last year, it seemed he was at the bottom of every single pile. he's also missing a lot of tackles this year, too.

    like others, i sense he's playing hurt.
     
  10. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,086
    Likes Received:
    1,352
    I want to say Kailee shifted over to MLB that year, but I could be wrong..
     
  11. RunninRaven

    RunninRaven Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2000
    Messages:
    15,271
    Likes Received:
    3,217
    Well, in Demeco's first game (regular season game) his rookie year he recorded 13 tackles. I'm pretty sure that was at MLB. I may be remembering this wrong, but I thought during training camp that season he wasn't looking good and wasn't picking up the defense as an OLB. When the coaches tried him at MLB he did much better. Then sometime before the season (maybe before the preseason, can't remember) our starting MLB got hurt and Demeco took over the role. Damnit I wish I could remember who that was. I remember them being not very good and pleasantly surprised when Demeco filled in so admirably.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now