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How good would the Lakers have been if they had Marc Gasol instead of Pau?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. goodbug

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    Lakers got Gasol coz Grizzles were on track to have back to back 20 wins season. Most teams have to deal their star and rebuild in this senario.

    Kwame was the biggest expiring contract to deal in the league. Only Bulls could come out with more attractive trade but they didn't want to trade their young and picks. It's not an undertable trade, it's lack of competition.

    If they couldn't get Gasol, they certainly would get something back by deadline, like Randolph, who was traded in 08 offseason anyway.

    I am not convinced Pau > Randolph+Marc
     
  2. wekko368

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    That theory might have been plausible had the Grizzlies not acquired Zach Randolph.

    Randolph is a fine player, but clearly inferior to Gasol, had a comparable salary to Gasol, and is only a year younger.
     
  3. YaoZow

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    Rumors by whom? West was no longer working for the Grizzlies.

    The Charlotte Hornets GM back then said he didn't want to trade Kobe.

    No collusion but he could have made more money staying in Orlando. Shaq wanted to play in LA.

    The Clippers are the redheaded stepchild.

    The Lakers are usually a dream destination for most NBA players.

    Pau Gasol himself said he could not believe his luck in landing in LA.
     
  4. YaoZow

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    I'm just giving possible names. We know that the Timberwolves and Jazz got nothing back in return for Al Jefferson and Boozer.

    It was crazy if you think about it.

    Would anybody have traded rookie Lebron for a proven vet like Antawn Jamison?

    Would anybody trade rookie Blake Griffin for a proven vet like Nene?

    Or would anybody give up John Wall for a proven vet like Andre Miller?
     
  5. YaoZow

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    Yup that's all the response you deserve you stupid little b****.

    You want some respect, give some first next time.
     
  6. YaoZow

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    Tell me why not?

    What fantasy world are you living in that the salary cap would have stopped the Lakers from acquiring Boozer?
     
  7. wekko368

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    Then you're thinking stupidly.

    There wasn't much hype surrounding Kobe when he was drafted. He went #13. At the time, Vlade was a fair trade.

    And are you aware that the three guys you listed (Griffin/Wall/Lebron) were all #1 picks? Stupid comparison...

    But IMO, trading A. Miller, Nene, or Jamison for the 13th pick seems fair.
     
  8. wekko368

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    Trading for a player impacts the salary cap differently than signing a free agent.

    For instance, if the Rockets had let McGrady's $20mm contract expire, they wouldn't have been able to sign a free agent for $20mm. I think the most the could've signed someone for was $7mm.
     
  9. YaoZow

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    Tis you who is thinking stupidly. Kobe was not #1 but there was no denying his talent...it was the risk involved.

    That same risk was involved with picking Lebron out of High School.

    Kobe was supposed to go earlier but it was Jerry West who called up the GM to talk him out of it.
     
  10. YaoZow

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    What does this have to do with the Lakers not being able to get Boozer?

    You're saying that it would have been impossible for the Lakers to keep Marc Gasol and get Boozer?
     
  11. SunsRocketsfan

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    LOL just keep playing your video game Franchise mode... Why are you trying to make up all these random scenarios anyways.. Lakers COULD HAVE gotten this... Lakers COULD HAVE gotten that guy.. Lakers COULD HAVE traded for....
    Get the point? I don't know what the Lakers cap situation would have looked like if they didnt trade for Pau but neither does anyone.. But they just cant replace Pau's 18 million contract and offer someone else 18 million if they are not under the cap by 18 million.

    Also WHO THE F cares? Lakers won two championships since trading for Pau.. Is Boozer better than Pau? Nope.. last I checekd he's sitting on the sidelines hurt plus he's a headcase and maybe he would have imploded the lakers and butt heads with Kobe.. I said maybe...cause i dont know and neither do you.. What I do know is Lakers have two more rings.. sounds like a it was a good move and it will be known as one of the most lopsided trades ever..
     
  12. YaoZow

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    Lol, I knew you didn't have an answer cuz you realized your mistake. :grin:

    Think before you talk next time.
     
  13. SunsRocketsfan

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    you know what.. thinking back a few years ago.. The Rockets shouldn't have traded Francis for Tmac.. They should have traded Francis for Dwade or Lebron.. It was possible so why wasnt it done?

    Or wait.. the Rockets shouldn't have drafted Yao. They should have traded that pick and waited a year to draft either Wade, LBJ, Melo or Bosh..

    Wow so many maybe's and possibilities!!!

    Maybe we can still trade one of our scrubs + cap space + draft pics for one of those guys.. just maybe.. hey ITS POSSIBLE
     
  14. SunsRocketsfan

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    LOL.. WTF is wrong with you? you are dumber than I thought..
    A few others have already answered your stupid salary cap answer and so have I. If the Lakers were not under the cap there was no way they could just sign someone.. YOU DONT KNOW WHO they would have on the payroll.. You cant just replace Pau's 18 million contract and ASSUME they will have that in cap space.. The trade was the best thing ever for the Lakers.. Gosh stop wasting your time and making yourself look like a fool here.
     
  15. YaoZow

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    Definitely possible for the Lakers. They were able to Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown.

    Lolz :grin:
     
  16. SunsRocketsfan

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    are you lol at your own stupidity??
     
  17. YaoZow

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    WTF is wrong with you? Hello...they had Kwame's contract to trade with.

    Lakers were OVER the cap when they got Pau Gasol. How? They had an expiring contract to trade.

    This is how NBA trades are done, educate yourself please. :grin:
     
  18. YaoZow

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    Actually, yours.

    The Lakers were already OVER The salary cap when they got Pau.

    Pau was received in exchange for Kwame Brown.

    How did the salary cap stop them?

    The answers been in front of your face the whole time. Open your eyes

    Lol :grin:
     
  19. SunsRocketsfan

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    I dont even know why I keep responding to your idiotic posts..

    umm the salary cap wouldnt stop it as long as the salaries were within a certain percentage of each other. A trade can go through as long as the salaries match within 125% + $100,000. Brown was making 9 mil and Pau was making 13. They made the numbers work by adding in fillers some fillers also. That has nothing to do with the salary cap.

    Just answer this.. (actually never mind dont answer it cause you cant and you lack the understanding to answer anything) You made a claim if the Lakers didnt trade for Pau they could have Marc + Boozer/or Amare cause they can offer Pau's current 18 million/year contract to Boozer or Amare.

    Okay Kwame's salary the year he got trade in 08 was 9million/year. Please explain to me how they could have signed all the players they currently have and free up 18 million dollars under the cap to sign Boozer or Amare.
    The trade only worked because a team like Memphis wanted to get under the cap and they did to get Randolph. The Lakers could not have gotten under the cap if they just let Brown expire.


    My point before is the Lakers could get creative and do that but you dont know!! But I can tell you this they can not have the team they currently have today + Marc and have 18 million to get Boozer/Amare that is not POSSIBLE.

    You can remove Pau's 18 million salary from the current Lakers roster and they are still over the cap by a lot. Which means they would not be able to sign any free agents other than with the MLE, LLE, etc

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm
     
  20. YaoZow

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    Same reason I keep answering your stupidity.

    Exactly. You've finally got it.

    Boozer was making less than Pau Gasol. So if a Pau Gasol trade works, so would a Boozer trade.

    Salary cap didn't mean jack, it wasn't going to stop them like you said it would.
     

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