That may be the case, but so far known of the top 3 of have looked like they would be worth the #1 pick. Vince and Mario have looked the best... The reggie hype has so far just been hype not production.
I still feel Vince Young was the best college football player that ever played the game, followed closely by Bo Jackson. VY was and is still the only choice for the number 1 pick....once he gets comfortable, he will be wiping his feet on the league for years to come. DD
After Leftwich fell down, Williams was the first lineman to touch him and make the tackle "official", thus he got the sack. As another poster said, if he was never touched, he could have gotten up and made a play.
DD you're my man, but how is value determined in football players. If Mario becomes Strahan and not White is that good value. I'm now looking for all the bush people. In 2 games Wali has out performed him for the whole season. Addai has also, yet people never says anything about Bush. Winning is the best cologne in the world and that the only reason why no one has said anything bad about bush underperforming.
They lost yesterday and I bet hardly anyone says anything bad about him this week either. The media does not like to admit that they were wrong. See Yao....
Watch the play again. First Mario blows up the swing pass, then recovers from a full jump with his hands up and catches up to Vince from behind. Very few linemen would be fast enough to break up the swing pass in the first place. Even fewer would be quick and fast enough to recover and catch Vince before the reached the line of scrimmage. I would be willing to bet most anything that Vince was shocked that Mario was the one who got him. It's not like like Vince stopped and waited for Mario to catch up. How many other times did you see Vince get tackled from behind, once he decided to run? I will certainly stand by my description of the play as a great sack.
A lot of them could and they weren't taken number 1 either.... I have no issue with Mario as a player, he is just NOT a number one pick talent. DD
I dunno about that.I see a guy that looks as if he might have Reggie White upside.Physically,Mario might very well be gifted enough to put him in the same league.It remains to be seen if he has Reggie's heart.
I don't say that lightly. Anyway more importantly Mario and Ryans appear to have this defense headed in the right direction.Our defense should dominate games next year. As far as us taking him 1 ahead of Bush and Young,I have no problem with it. Mario's talent level is up there with those guys and to get that in an end at a position of need is too good to pass up IMO.
Yes, but we were talking about Mario Williams and whether he was worth a number one pick. But, thanks for stoping by, you contributed so much..... My point was that he has 3.5 sacks in 7 games.... SHEESH !! DD
BINGO! Duh + Duh = DUH !!! If it's so easy, what is Babin doing this year? one sack in his 3rd year so far! What is mighty Travis doing this year? Oh I know basically NOTHING! No sacks, has he even breathed on an opposing QB this year? Just curious ... God, more wasted freakin picks! Unbelievable!!!
At this point of their rookie seasons, statistically speaking, neither Williams, Bush nor Young has proven themselves worthy of being the number one pick.
Mario Williams looks a lot better than VY and Bush so far IMO. Ryans, Lundy, and Daniels are looking like studs. Spencer was very good before injury and Winston looked solid in the series he played versus the Titans. Anderson will likely be the new punt and kick returner so the draft for the Texans was the by far their best ever and maybe the best in the NFL this year.
I agree 100%. Sacks IMO are pretty overated. I am more interested in QB hurries and if you cause double teams. Speaking of sacks, Mark Anderson, a 5th round pick of the Bears out of UAB who doesn't even start, has 7.5 sacks and 3 forced fumbles, and Elvis Dumervil, 4th round pick of the Broncos out of Louisville has 5 sacks in the two games he played this year.
Hmmm.....I wonder if the draft were held today, who would go number 1...I would wager it would be Vince now... DD
And Julius Peppers only got his first sack this past week. I think when you are commanding double teams all the time it's going to be a tough time recording sacks.