what do you mean you 'disagree'? theres nothing to agree or disagree over - thats exactly what rush said. and to qualify your statement w/ 'so what' - i dont know how anyone could defend limbaugh's statement.
you know whats more tiresome than these threads is you always whining about people posting in them. your act of pretending like you are above the fray got old and predictable a long time ago. if you hate these threads that much than why the heck are you reading/posting in them? you come off like an unfunny version of fatty fat b*stard.
They might. It in no way precludes anyone from saying racist things. There were actually blacks who fought for the confederacy in the civil war. That doesn't mean that the American institution of slavery wasn't racist. While you might have brought up the black world community because someone else was talking about approval rating for Obama, Rush didn't bring it up for those reasons. I pointed out that Rush's bringing it up was definitely related to race. You understand that at minimum tens of thousands are dead in Haiti. This isn't the time for Rush to try and use that tragedy to make racial divides which he has done. It is despicable. It also isn't the time for you to try and defend these practices. The tragedy is on a scale possibly 30 times worse than 9/11 in numbers of dead alone. Percentage wise of the population it's even greater than that. In terms of infrastructure damage, it is worse still. I'll let Rush, Williams, and Sowell do the racial dividing by exploiting this tragedy, and I'll leave you to defend it.
Don't you love it when people speak up for you? I am to Rush as the ACLU is to Rush Limbaugh's medical records. Yes, I'm more politically aligned with Limbaugh more than most of you in this forum. Rush is a bombastic entertainer who flirts with the truth. Like all of us, sometimes he shaves it to his own liking or sometimes just plainly misunderstands it. It also can be pretty elusive or masked at times. In other words, he is far from perfect and I'll give him some berth for that... just like I do Keith Olbermann or Batman Jones or mcmark or myself. Very little need to go for the kill in here.
wow. - why would you listen to someone who you know 'flirts' with the truth. another way to put it is that he 'lies' and is thus totally uncredible. and what do you mean 'like all of us' - most people dont 'shave' the truth to their own liking. everyone is entitled to their opinions, but you are not entitled to your own truths. im not going to go out of my way to defend olbermann, but you cant compare him to limbaugh or fox when it comes to lying, misrepresenting or 'shaving' the truth. he is a total lib-pig and ill give you that, but he is not a liar (at least to the degree that his colleagues on the right are). actually, there is. these comments he made are just so disgusting, even by his standards. he's entitled to his opinion, but that also means he is subject to the criticism from said opinions.
Apparently, I don't think you or I or anyone else has that much command of the truth as you think you do!
rush exists because he is a reflection of real attitudes that still exist in this country. i believe that these sentiments are being eroded slowly but surely and some people don't like it. they are becoming more and more extreme because they are desperate that the end is near for their way of thinking. they are cowards IMO but i defend their right to free speech, it is the most valuable right we have as americans. besides, it illuminates and brings out in the open an ugly side of our national psyche. transparency is a good thing.
I'd love to see you detail some of these observations... What is the way of thinking nearing its end? How are they cowards? What is "ugly" about conservatism? Anything else you can think of!!
nothing ugly with conservatism unless it chooses to benefit one sector of society at the expense of another. fear of pluralism is the cowardice to which i refer. pluralism, however, is the way it's gonna all shake out... eventually.
how do you see this operating in the conservative political philosophy? What pluralities are conservatives fearful of?
Rush's brand of conservatives are afraid of Muslims, An upwardly mobile black population(even though Williams and Sowell work for him), education, impoverished people with health care, minorities who have or even want a share of the power structure, most foreigners who aren't underaged sex slaves.
I agree with this statement. Nobody thinks anymore. Its all about just who has the biggest.... Its so sad to see this on both sides. I sometimes wonder if Bill Maher is right.
not lying is really not that difficult. i think rush fell off the pill-wagon - this guy has clearly lost it.
I just thought about something. In 1990, I moved to a mostly white town in NJ. I was pulled over all the time for no reason by the cops. I even had a neighbor tell me to "go back to where I came from" when I moved next door to him. Of course, he is talking about me moving back to the Dominican Republic (I was born and raised in the US)...but I was like...move back to Texas? Anyways, a friend of mine said to me that when "all the old white people who were around pre-1970 die, racism will take a turn for the much, much better". I know he meant it to be funny. But here it is, 20 years later, the guy next door died, most of the people on the block turned from white to less white to more mixed. And the town as a whole has really tanned up! And guess what? I don't get pulled over. I don't get tracked in the local bodega anymore. And...overall,things are alot better in the town. Not as "racist" as it was before, according to alot of us late 30 somethings. My point? Harry Reid, Rush Limbaugh and the like live in a different place in time. When they are no longer around to spew their hateful, biased, crappy comments, things will get better. Not that EVERY person who is white, over 50 should die. Its that ALOT of that generation still harbor those thoughts and are in a position of influence because they are at the APEX of their careers and have a forum to speak that kind of crap. The generation behind them will be more tolerant. Thats my generation. And the ones behind them, will be more so. And so on. There will be people right behind them. But not as much. So....lets root for the death of all racists!
Wishing for the death of white people and for the world to "tan up" will help. ****-brained liberal hypocrisy rules the world.
