How do the Texans have to finish for Kubiak to keep his job? (Poll)

LOL, not MY decision. I think this is McNair's line of thinking. He's said since the summer that playoffs is the goal for this year. I don't think McNair can fire the guy if we slip in at 8-8, especially if we actually win a playoff game (yeah, right).

So you're saying if we win out and miss the playoffs, you'd fire him? Seems to contradict your first paragraph.

 

For me it's 10-6 or playoffs for him to keep his job. I seriously doubt 9-7 gets us in, but if it does, I say he keeps his job. 10-6 shows me we did all we could (starting from 5-6, not earlier) and still missed out, so that'd be the ONLY consolation prize, and even that's tough to say.

Anything less than that and he needs to go. It'll just be time for a change.

 

I see what you mean. I agree that if they make the playoffs there is no way Kubiak gets fired.

How does that contradict my first paragraph? My position is that the final stretch of the season against mediocrity and a team with potentially nothing to play for against you should not be what makes your decision on the coach. We've had 11 games this season. We are under .500. Those were games played where both teams had something to play for. The playoffs were on the line. Now, that changes if he gets the team into the playoffs because it's hard to fire a coach of a playoff team.

When your team goes the majority of the season and proves itself to be below .500 in any sport, you have to be able to make a decision on your team's future without being blinded by a nice finish.

 

Well, if you win out and miss the playoffs at 10-6, that would mean 2 other teams played well enough to get the WC over us. And that would mean you would fire him based on how other teams played.

Of course, this is all moot because we both know we are NOT going to win out.

 

I see what you are saying, but the playoffs only come into mind for me because of public perception.

 

Easily 9 wins Kubiak would keep his job, the front office will spin it so its a "big improvement", "the team is on the right track", "we're still young", and save them some money by not going after another coach.

 

It's ten or we will be saying so long Kubiak

 

As much as it's totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things as to whether a coach is good or bad, I still think things like this are cool. After losing yesterday, Mike Tomlin said:

“We will not go gently. We will unleash hell in December because we have to. We won’t go in a shell. We’ll go into attack mode because that’s what’s required.”

None of the "one game at a time" or "we're going to work to get better" or all that generic stuff.

 

But see Kubiak was patrly to blame for several of those 6 losses which would have had us in a WC spot. His conservative, gentle attacks aren't going to fly anymore. This team needs a jolt of eneregy.

Bring in the CHIN!!

 

You forgot the ol' "we've got to be more consistent" and "we've got to cut down on the mental mistakes."

 

I don't think we'll fire him mid-season. Not at all. In fact, I'd be surprised if McNair fired him at all.

In my opinion, our problems as a team, for the whole history of this franchise, start at McNair's desk. The guy is too nice of an owner in a cutthroat league.


In my opinion, Kubiak should be fired unless somehow he can rally this team and win out.

 

Going 1-5 in our division, playing inconsistent from half to half, not making adjustments during the course of the game, bad clock management, having a team make so many mental mistakes or stupid errors (like the Dunta celebration that Manning burned us for)....man, all those sorts of things make a guy start to wonder about the coach/coaching staff.

I really want Kubiak to succeed. And I've been staying away from the 'blame Kubiak' bandwagon for most of this season. But it's getting hard to keep doing it.

I think having a winning record in these last five games and missing the playoffs still doesn't get it done. I just don't know.

 

Knowing Bob McNair, I just have a gut feeling that Kubes keeps his job at 8-8. They let him coach 1 last year (his contract year) and see if we make that jump over the mountain. I think if theres anything less than 8 wins, he will have to go cause McNair wont have anything to sell for next season. Frankly, the fans will call for Kubiaks head if that was the case. McNair seems like the type of owner to let him coach thru his contracy and figure out at the end of it, if there is any merit to re-sign him for another 4 years.

 

For me it's not enough they even get 10 wins. It's not about the wins. It's showing that they can correct the mistakes that have plagued them in the past. If they play with more discipline, play with more intensity the whole game, play to win and close games, then I think Kubiak deserves to stay.

It certainly will feel good to win 5 in a row and sneak into the playoffs, but if they do it making the same mistakes and essentially back into the playoffs (if that's possible already being on the outside), then it's just fools gold.