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How did McHale become so untouchable on Clutch?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SugarLandDream8, Nov 27, 2013.

  1. flamingdts

    flamingdts Member

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    I didn't say he was a LOF.

    I said this entire thread was about Lin in the first place, and it's pretty evident with all the focus on Lin throughout this thread, especially from the OP. The fact that OP makes the claim that McHale is untouchable only because of people's dislike of Lin is just further proof.

    If I said "Lin, Lin, Lin, Lin, Lin, Lin, Lin, and Asik", is my post all of a sudden not revolving around Lin anymore?
     
  2. pippendagimp

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    your initial reply to me wasn't responding to anything in my post you had quoted, starting off calling me gay. therefore i assumed you must have been drunk after thanksgiving (maybe you were?)

    and i wanted mchale fired at the end of last season and had expressed as much in the official fire mchale thread. during his first season i was critical of him here. but by the end of last season, with our second consecutive collossal collapse, i had seen enough. his failings early this season are just reinforcement that he indeed needs to be replaced. the coaches i listed have all been to the nba finals. i stand by my statement that mchale will never get to the finals as a head coach. it's my opinion. you can act like a 6yr old (or a drunk 26yr old) here and call it homosexual. have a nice day
     
  3. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

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    edit ^^

    "during his first season i was never critical of him here."
     
  4. jtr

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    The Rockets do not need a dictatorial old fart of a head coach like Sloan who retired complaining that he did not understand today's NBA players. They do not need a coach like Karl who has been to the playoffs about four thousand times and never brought home a ring. SVG is not an option because of his previously contentious history with Howard. Basically those are crap choices for the Rockets head coaching position.
     
  5. pippendagimp

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    i think others here are right that in any case, the front office will wait till the summer to re-evaluate anyways. i'm just saying that me personally, i don't think another 3 months is going to make a difference. we already have a body of work in minnesota and mchale's first 2 seasons here to judge. and his failings in the first month so far show that he hasn't changed his stripes. most notably, i sincerely do not see him somehow coming up with a competent offensive system on the fly here during the grueling season. i just don't want to see this roster go to waste because we decided to get complacent and just "see what happens". if we had managed to get derek harper at the trade deadline in '97, who knows? if we had gotten that 3rd almost star to go along with yao/tmac, who knows? getting to the finals will require discipline and precision out of this team and i just don't see that happening with mchale leading. turnovers, dysfunctional offensive sets, missed defensive assignments, etc are sadly, what i expect
     
  6. sirbaihu

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    Aw I was ready to make friends until the end of your post. Obviously "ghey" does not equal "gay": I'm not saying you are gay for SVG, or want to make out with Jerry Sloan, or "do stuff" with George Karl. I have no idea if you want to or not. . . . I'm saying, you are showing a petulant impatience to get a guy fired, with insufficient reason.

    Your statement that McHale will never make it to the finals with Houston is super bold, as 28 other coaches also will not make it to the finals any given year.

    I do like that you used some reasoning this time rather than simply ignoring the argument and attacking me. Meanwhile, I stand by (it's the adult way, like yours :)) my claim that complaining about too little criticism of McHale--despite the 250 page fire McHale thread--is ghey.
     
  7. pippendagimp

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    actually i had never seen you in this forum prior to this thread, so no big loss
     
  8. TheJet

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    I don't think that's a fair assessment. He took over as an interim coach for the TWolves and they were already in trouble. As someone earlier pointed out, his roster for the Rockets has changed dramatically in the past two years so he hasn't had the consistency for a good control sample yet.

    I wasn't a fan of the hire and I'm still not sold that he's the right guy for what looks to be a talent loaded team. But I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as long as we keep winning. If he massively chokes with this team (Kubiak) then I'll sign up for the lynch mob.
     
  9. roxxy

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    I wasn't talking about you. A lot of other posters called him a LOF and entirely dismissed his posts. And I think the fact that the OP isn't calling for Lin to even start should count just as much in his favour as the fact that he focuses on lin throughout the thread seems to count against him.
     
  10. pippendagimp

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    thank god for some of the changes, or he'd still be running cole aldrich and toney douglas major minutes out there :grin:
     
  11. TheJet

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    You could be right, and it would be funny if it wasn't possible :eek:
     
  12. KlutchQT

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    Did you read any of OP's posts on this subject? I raised those points because he tried to come up with every possible reason in the world to argue that Teague's 0-FG performance had nothing to do with Bev and everything to do with something else, all of which could be easily discredited.

    "It had nothing to do with Bev. It's because he only played 25 minutes." -- When the stats clearly show Teague has never been held to 0 points when he played ~25 minutes during the season so far. In fact, he scored 16 last time he played 25 minutes.

    "Oh. Well, in that case, it's because he was on the 2nd half of a b2b. All players are tired on the 2nd half of b2bs. That's why." In fact, the 16-point game in 25 minutes occurred on the 2nd half of a back-to-back.

    I'm not hailing Bev as the best defender since sliced bread. At all. But to have an alleged "fan" go to such lengths to discredit his impact and try to argue that he had nothing to do with Teague's abysmal performance is really pathetic. And incredibly transparent, given how 97% of his posts in this thread relate to how Bev is trash.
     
  13. KlutchQT

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    Frankly, I don't disagree. This is why I always say I don't necessarily think it's "fair" that Lin was moved out of the starting lineup, though I can see why they would take that route. I think the options were (1) have a come to Jesus with Harden about the sharing of playmaking duties, or (2) move Lin. I think the latter was just the easiest way out.
     
  14. DraftBoy10

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    We need a coach who can handle defense extremely well, handle players, and offensively has some creativity. Doesn't need to be a mastermind; our philosophy should stick but there NEEDS to be some designated plays at the end of game situations.

    I think Hollins could be good. But he won't listen to the analytics that Morey will push him over. The ultimate drive & kick, 3 or dunk offense is a great philosophy. But defensively we suck and when it's a half-court game it's usually iso Harden, those two needs need a lot of improvement.

    I nominate myself.
     
  15. KlutchQT

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    I thought someone would have hired Hollis by now.
     
  16. bongman

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    This is what the OP wrote in one of his posts...

    I hope he doesn't get immunity from critic simply because some see him as the one to keep a lid on linsanity

    I don't know if you can interpret that any other way. There are a number of reasons that OP could have used to justify Mchale's coaching but this was the one that was used. It revealed the true agenda of this thread.
     
  17. SuperKev

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    I think the coaching performance is more than a reflection of the coach but instead shows us the skills of the coaching staff as a whole. Clearly if you look at our top 4 or so the staff as a group is top notch. While I was against the McHale hiring in general the filling out of a high quality staff around him really gave the coach the best chance possible to excel. The nanosecond the team starts to lose (and even before) you will **always have the fire coach xxxxxx thread in a fan forum like this. Coach McHale has flaws as all coaches do but I think the staff does largely make up for it. Plus proof is in the pudding and we are standing 12-5 at the moment.
     
  18. Play07

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    Good coaching tonight Mchale !!
     

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