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How come Dubai and Qatar do not seem to have to worry about terror?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Dec 2, 2010.

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  1. glynch

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    Sort of like you are not a good representative of the club of educated German professionals?
     
    #81 glynch, Feb 6, 2012
  2. Cohete Rojo

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    Because they are teh terrorists. Derp!
     
    #82 Cohete Rojo, Feb 6, 2012
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    So you are saying Hitler not being a good representative of Germans, Osama Bin Laden not being a good representative of Muslims, and I supposedly not being a good representative of the club of educated German professionals should be mentioned in the same breath?

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    #83 AroundTheWorld, Feb 6, 2012
  4. Bandwagoner

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    Yes because crude has no value beyond gasoline for passenger vehicles.
     
    #84 Bandwagoner, Feb 6, 2012
  5. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    It was Sheikh Mohammed, the Prime Minister of the UAE, who came out and said they are friends.

    The internal dynamics of the UAE are very important in this regard. Some of the public were not happy with the statement, particularly those who have a pro-Arab-Emirati bias. Most of the entire population of the country were extremely happy with the announcement.

    I'm not sure why you mention second level citizenship. The UAE will do what's best for the UAE. It doesn't matter what people think, though you may find it's more accurate to say that (1) youngsters who are genetically Arab and (2) extremist religious scholars tend to see them with inferiority. You would find it difficult to find that trend in Dubaians or Emirati Dubaians.

    Every citizen of Dubai has worked with an Iranian in every capacity at some point in time. Many Dubaians worked for Iranians, learned from Iranians, went to Iranian Universities, traded with Iranians, and jointly built the foundations of Dubai's trading business just 2 decades ago.

    Speaking of which, you guys should ask about how these sanctions are facting Iranian-Americans. If you have some semblance of objectivity, it should infuriate you.

    CAUTION: Iranians that I see in real life are not similar at all to the Iranians displayed on American tv 99% of the time.
     
    #85 Mathloom, Feb 6, 2012
  6. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Related article.
     
    #86 Mathloom, Feb 7, 2012
  7. SPF35

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    Saudia and UAE are the major funders and backbone of the livelihood of not just terrorism but more extremist thoughts and values. They have the most money and they build mosques and spread their influence on wahabi values in other of the places. Interestingly enough, we wouldn't probe them after 911, we still haven't, we would've been better served going after them rather than all the countries that we did. But Bush had a great relationship with them, including laden's family, as does America oblivious that they are the root funders and that most of the guys on the plane were saudi even. A lot just does not make sense after ie learned baout these things
     
    #87 SPF35, Feb 7, 2012
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    Do you think Saudi and UAE are in the same boat here? Seems to me like Saudi are a lot more fundamentalist than UAE? (Although, when reading some of Mathloom's posts, I am not sure.)
     
    #88 AroundTheWorld, Feb 7, 2012
  9. Mathloom

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    Those kinds of mosques are neither present in the UAE, nor funded by the government to grow externally. Not even the most remote mosque will spread wahhabism because every sermon is sent by the government religious affairs committee to the Imams before the day the sermon is given. You can go to the government religious affairs website and download what you're going to hear before you hear it. In this stringent way, they're able to push out extremists.

    Furthermore the government takes terrorism very seriously, and you can tell from their aggressive reaction to 9/11. Read up about it on wiki, though I can't imagine why you'd start doing any reasearch now seeing as you've never done it before.

    You virtually cannot purchase guns or drugs in the UAE at all.

    As for thoughts and values, Emiratis resemble Americans in every thought and value. A country full of majority-immigrant super-rich overleveraged consumers drunk on oil, mcdonalds, booze, cars, bling, hollywood suffering from increasing rates of divorce, obesity, hypertension, stress, financial mismanagement, etc.

    The problem Americans and Emiratis have is people like you driving a wedge between them for the sake of whatever theology you want your government to follow.

    If you believe rich Emiratis are the problem behind terrorism, I feel sorry for you to be honest, but at the same time it's highly amusing.
     
    #89 Mathloom, Feb 7, 2012
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    But sex.
     
    #90 AroundTheWorld, Feb 7, 2012
  11. DaDakota

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    Of course it does, silly, but we have enough crude for other things, and if we become the leader of the alternative tech...well......come on now Casey, it is simple supply side economics, I am sure you understand that.

    DD
     
    #91 DaDakota, Feb 7, 2012
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    Very interesting, maybe you are on to something when you say that it is not only Saudi, but also the UAE who is behind extremist thoughts and values.

    And we all know Mathloom works for the UAE government...

    I read up on this a little.

    http://criticalppp.com/archives/69085

    Saudi Arabia, UAE financing radical Deobandi-Wahhabi organizations in Pakistan

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    Banned Sipah-e-Sahaba and Lashkar-e-Taiba are key recipients of the Saudi-UAE financial aid

    A US official in a cable sent to the State Department stated that “financial support estimated at nearly 100 million USD annually was making its way to Deobandi and Ahl-i-Hadith clerics in south Punjab from organisations in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates ostensibly with the direct support of those governments.”

    The cable sent in November 2008 by Bryan Hunt, the then Principal Officer at the US Consulate in Lahore, was based on information from discussions with local government and non-governmental sources during his trips to the cities of Multan and Bahawalpur.

    Quoting local interlocutors, Hunt attempts to explain how the “sophisticated jihadi recruitment network” operated in a region dominated by the Barelvi sect, which, according to the cable, made south Punjab “traditionally hostile” to Deobandi and Ahl-i-Hadith schools of thought.

    Hunt refers to a “network of Deobandi and Ahl-i-Hadith mosques and madrassahs” being strengthened through an influx of “charity” which originally reached organisations “such as Jamaat-ud-Dawa and Al-Khidmat foundation”. Portions of these funds would then be given away to clerics “in order to expand these sects’ presence” in a relatively inhospitable yet “potentially fruitful recruiting ground”.

    Outlining the process of recruitment for militancy, the cable describes how “families with multiple children” and “severe financial difficulties” were generally being exploited for recruitment purposes. Families first approached by “ostensibly ‘charitable’” organisations would later be introduced to a “local Deobandi or Ahl-i-Hadith maulana” who would offer to educate the children at his madrassah and “find them employment in the service of Islam”. “Martyrdom” was also “often discussed”, with a final cash payment to the parents. “Local sources claim that the current average rate is approximately Rs 500,000 (approximately USD 6,500) per son,” the cable states.

    Children recruited would be given age-specific indoctrination and would eventually be trained according to the madrassah teachers’ assessment of their inclination “to engage in violence and acceptance of jihadi culture” versus their value as promoters of Deobandi or Ahl-i-Hadith sects or recruiters, the cable states.

    Recruits “chosen for jihad” would then be taken to “more sophisticated indoctrination camps”. “Locals identified three centres reportedly used for this purpose”. Two of the centres were stated to be in the Bahawalpur district, whereas one was reported as situated “on the outskirts of Dera Ghazi Khan city”. These centres “were primarily used for indoctrination”, after which “youths were generally sent on to more established training camps in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas and then on to jihad either in FATA, NWFP, or as suicide bombers in settled areas”.
    The cable goes on to quote local officials criticising the PML-N-led provincial and the PPP-led federal governments for their “failure to act” against “extremist madrassas, or known prominent leaders such as Jaish-i-Mohammad’s Masood Azhar”. The Bahawalpur district nazim at the time told Hunt that despite repeatedly highlighting the threat posed by extremist groups and indoctrination centres to the provincial and federal governments, he had received “no support” in dealing with the issue unless he was ready to change his political loyalties. The nazim, who at the time was with the PML-Q, “blamed politics, stating that unless he was willing to switch parties…neither the Pakistan Muslim League – Nawaz provincial nor the Pakistan People’s Party federal governments would take his requests seriously”.
     
    #92 AroundTheWorld, Feb 7, 2012
  13. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    The Luxor?
     
    #93 B-Bob, Feb 7, 2012
  14. RocketsLegend

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    I googled " why no terrorist attacks in dubai" and this thread was the first result.
     
    #94 RocketsLegend, Aug 13, 2016
  15. peleincubus

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    Awesome. What did you have for breakfast this morning?
     
    #95 peleincubus, Aug 13, 2016
  16. mtbrays

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    I visited the UAE last year, including Dubai and Abu Dhabi. The former is a very surreal place, almost like an urban planner with a SimCity cheat code was designing it.

    We'll likely never know the extent of money laundering that occurs there, but it's also rumored that the UAE pays off groups that would otherwise threaten it. Plus, people who live there understand that everything they do is recorded and monitored. It's a glitzy police state and there are few places around the world that I've felt safer.

    A couple of years ago a Yemeni woman murdered an American in a mall bathroom in Abu Dhabi and the UAE was swift in executing her. They don't want to scare away Westerners.
     
    #96 mtbrays, Aug 13, 2016
  17. Exiled

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    Brilliant search ,one of a kind.peviouse posts might help you to be more lost.


    1- Qaida consider all GCC states as a part of Arabian Peninsula, meaning they do not recognize boundaries ,same applies to ISIS , any attack carried against all.

    2- only Iran/Israel are immuned from such attacks, Iran in particular, sheltered all top commanders and their families (20+ years)

    3-one slogan unified all terrorists : we will liberate holy sites from Bin Saud , that was the slogan of khumieni, and an important goal of Iranian Constitution of exporting "revolutionary" ,echoed by Qaida and now ISIS, even Boko Haram or crazy Arab nationalists .



    ,Now it's my turn I guess to google : how 2nd generation Iranian become White supremacists, don't they have mirrors!
     
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