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How can we move Head?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Da Wink, Nov 2, 2008.

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  1. sTeKcOr22

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    If we are serious about resigning Deke back, we might as well trade Head for cash considerations or draft picks. Wafer is a option too.
     
  2. jackie_moon23

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    I would be the happiest guy in the world if this happened, but I don't think Head is enough for Williams. Head might be a valuable assest, but teams put an emphasis on size, because it's not always easy to find. I just don't see them tossing out a serviceable big man for a midget guard.
     
  3. jackie_moon23

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    I still feel like Deke will be back on this team, but to just throw Head and Wafer out for some cash and draft picks? Head is a solid bench guy. Yeah the Rox want to clear some cash space to resign Deke, but I'd be shocked if they just throw out Head and a raw talent like Wafer to sign the 60 year old 7 footer. There's other options out there, but be patient my friend. The season is young. As long as Deke stays conditioned on his own, I don't see us needing him until mid-season.
     
  4. RoxTurk

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    Morey can consider Sean May also.He has center skills and size.Larry Brown doesnt like him either.
     
  5. joesr

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    But why would they or any other team trade for another bad dribbling, high TO rate PG for one of they're non playing PG?

    What we all need to understand if we do a solo trade for Head we will get what if you can understand another Head back (not by name but by comparison). If you really want to unload Head your gonna have to give up another player that has value, point and period.
     
  6. Hayesfan

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    Larry Brown doesn't like him because he didn't work his way into shape after his injury. He slow and out of shape.

    He's not going to help us here.
     
  7. Rockets Jones

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    Trade Head only if Wafer / Francis prove they can produce because you need a guy when Barry / Brooks goes down. And only if that gets enough room for Mutombo to come in. Or else let him stay, he's great in the regurlar season and was in the best shape of all at the start of training camp. Any1 knows why he hasn't played in the last 2 games ?
     
  8. hed

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    Move him to the starting spot.



    I only kid.
     
  9. YallMean

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    The question is Will you roll the dice by packaging Head with one of our valued assets such as Shane or Landry for a premium PG or PF/C like Foster.
     
  10. worzel gummidge

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    Head for Hendrix +Watson(100k guaranteed) +Morrow*(non-guaranteed)
    Rockets reduce salary in this deal by around ($1.42M - amount owed to Morrow)
    *Morrow has a trade restriction that expires on Dec 15

    Alston +Landry +Hayes +Francis(expiring) for Hinrich
    Rockets reduce salary in this deal by around $2.46M

    Hinrich, Brooks
    McGrady, Barry, Wafer
    Artest, Battier, Horry
    Scola, (Artest/Battier), (Mourning), Harris, Hendrix
    Yao, Deke, Mourning, Dorsey
     
  11. Fullcourt

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    You keep suggesting we trade Hayes and Landry for Hinrich. Why the hell would we do that?
     
  12. Ikorose

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    We are NOT getting Sean Williams for Head. There are at least 15 other teams that will give the Nets a better deal. Unless Morey goes to negotiations with God, Jesus, Mary, The Holy Ghost, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John it's not happening.

    Head for Sean May!? Do you realized Sean May has been in the league 3yrs and hasn't even totaled 60 career games. He's fat, out of shape, and makes T-Mac and Yao look like Cal Ripken Jr.

    LOL @ Head for Seergio Rodriguez. Pritchard has been swindling GM's the same way Morey does. We'd have to swap Yao for Raef Lafrentz if that happens.

    I'll continue to preach Head + Francis for Joe Smith. Maybe he isn't as athletic anymore, but it's still some good length to have behind Yao and he has offensive touch.

    Steven Hunter is the other option but his bball IQ makes Head look like Magic Johnson.

    Head/Landry or Battier for Foster!? Morey doesn't get swindled he does the swindling.
     
  13. slcrocket

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    No.

    Good hell, people, the hatred for Head has gotten out of hand. Why do we need to do ANYTHING with him right now?

    Waive him = he costs us money and we get nothing.
    Trade him = only an option if there is something decent on the table, and let's be honest--Luther's not commanding a ton in trade value.
    Keep him = doesn't hurt us at all...he's got a guaranteed contract which is a sunk cost right now...you can't do anything about it.

    So yeah, you trade the guy if the right deal comes along, but that goes for everyone on the whole damn team. Enough with threads on the guy who's played 12 minutes all season.
     
  14. worzel gummidge

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    It's not hatred, it's luxury tax. He's the most obvious candidate to be moved. The Rockets would probably love a trade exception but they are rare this season.
     
  15. joesr

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    yeah lets have a start pg who doesnt know the system
    thats just great
    regardless of how bad rafer sucks at shooting he still knows the system
    and regardless of what you think artest will see more time at the 2 and 3
    just because he can play the four doesnt mean he will, just shows he can manage the switch ups

    why would you get rid of landry and hayes, it should be either or. do you want offense or defense.

    lastly why the hell would you want to f up our chemisty over one PG whose getting a steady pay of 10m each year and face it he isn't worth that much

    your smart man
     
  16. A_3PO

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    If the Rockets decide they need to make a mid-season trade to help the team, Luther will be part of the package. It's going to be a while before he's gone.

    If he's not playing, don't worry about it. He can't hurt the team sitting on the bench.
     
  17. BimaThug

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    If neither Luther Head nor Steve Francis contribute to the team before Februrary, then one trade that might make sense for both teams (for strictly for luxury tax purposes) would be the following:

    Trade #1: Rockets trade Steve Francis and cash to Oklahoma City using OKC's trade exception (from the Delonte West trade)

    Trade #2: Rockets trade Luther Head and cash to Oklahoma City using OKC's trade exception (from the Wally Szczerbiak trade)

    Before people on this BBS start screaming about why Francis and Head couldn't net the Rockets an All-Star caliber player, everyone needs to realize that IF those players are not playing well, then their contracts will cost the Rockets far more than they're being paid. Plus, if they both play poorly, they likely would not be re-signed anyway.

    This trade would require that OKC does not otherwise use their trade exceptions in other deals. Also, the cash involved would need to be MORE than the combined remaining salary obligations of the players' contracts. For instance, by February, Francis and Head would be owed a combined ~$2-3M. If Les Alexander cut a check for $3M to Clay Bennett, it would be more beneficial to the Thunder (who are sufficiently below the luxury tax threshold to simply waive Francis and Head if they had to and eat their salaries) than to just let those trade exceptions expire.

    AGAIN, this is only if Luther and/or Steve are not adding any value to the team. As of right now, Luther still has a little value as depth at SG. We'll see what Stevie can do once he gets back healthy. (Heck, if Francis plays really well, the Rockets might be able to get some REAL value for him at the deadline.)

    Just a thought.
     
  18. ElGatoLoco

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    I don't know if we can get anything of substance for Luther Head. At best, maybe a 2nd round draft pick. The Rockets probably trade him just to get under the luxury tax
     
  19. BimaThug

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    ^Edit: Switch those trade exceptions.
     
  20. Triple Threat

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    Because Hinrich is a very good PG and that is our biggest weakness.
     

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